September 2008 - Posts

Mises U ?



Just curious about Mises U.

I looked into it and it would cost a minimum of $2,650.00 for me to be able to go. As it is now I just can't justify the expediture (I would make a great president wouldn't I?). But I am willing to listen to arguements as to why I ought to go.

Has anyone here been to one as a "member observer"?

I guess what I'm looking for is for someone to give me the sales pitch... So lets hear it! 


3rd parties in America and IVR

I wrote this in a response to a question raised about 3rd parties in America.


But there is a solution, I don't expect anyone here to buy into this as a way of saving democracy or justifying it, or any of the above, but at least it may help.

It's the idea of an instant voter run off. you get one fewer votes than there are candidates running for the office. You vote first for the person you would most like to see win, and you have the option of selecting your second favorite candidate to the right.


so my ticket might read

                          1                    2                3           4

McCain             (   )                (     )           ( )        (  )

Obama             (    )               (     )             (  )       (    )

Hoppe              ( x )               (    )              (   )       (     )

Barr                  (    )              (     )             ( x  )       (    )

Paul                  (    )              ( x )              (   )        (    )


if after the ballots are read and no candidate receives more than 50% of the votes for the 1 column, then the candidate who recieves the fewest # of votes will be dropped and those whose ballots had the least popular candidate ranked first would be read again under the 2nd column. so if Hoppe came in last my vote would be changed to Paul. if there were still no pure majority, the next least popular candidate would be dropped again and the process would repeat.

This would allow people to vote their conscience instead of  for the lesser of two evils, and would protect the would be winner from the spoiler effect. It does not fix democracy, but perhaps it is a little better that 51 rule over 49 than 23 rule over 77.

If nothing else it would be a legitimizing tool for getting the message out about Libertarianism and Austrian economics.

one last note. this would be a little tricky when it came to the electoral college, and I don't know how it would play out exactly. supposing this were implemented in all 50 states, we could have a design such that the electors might be recalled and the next most popular candidate would be elected by that state in the event that the candidate initially elected did not get a substantial number of electoral votes from other areas. So that even if Hoppe won Oklahoma straight away, his electors might be recalled in favor of Paul's if Obama is leading Paul 268- 264, Oklahoma would not send Hoppe electors if Paul was voted more popular than Obama.  In this case Oklahoma's 6 electoral votes would make difference 270-268.

Again, I'm not claiming that this will fix the world, but it may alleviate some of the pain. And most importantly, as I mentioned before, it would provide people a real incentive to take a good look at the issues, both economical and ethical and that would be the best for us, and for liberty.

(GAY) Marriage.

Before we get into marriage itself. I believe there is something to be said against the current tax code. I am for the tax break granted to married people insofar as the smaller a tax is, the closer it is to being no tax at all, and the better. All citizens should be treated the same. A proper ethic does not say all men (and women) should be robbed equally, but they should not be robbed at all.

Now lets talk about marriage itself. As to whether it is between 2 men, 2 women, one man and several women, or one man and one woman, I find the last to be the only one morally appropriate, But above that I say it is onlyh between adults and their creator, and not between them and government. Government has no role to play in the institution of marriage.

Instead of the gay community pressing for state sanctioning of their marriages, they out to advocate the elimination of the state’s involvement in marriage all together, because it is none of the state’s business. The Christian right should join in this movement but for a different reason, if they are intent upon “preserving” the sanctity of marriage, they ought to call for the abolition of state sanctioned marriages on the grounds that it is not the government, but God who brings two people into holy matrimony.

In either case I find the licensing or non licensing of people to get married by the state to be unconstitutional on the grounds of the right to assemble, and associate, and that is what a marriage is, whether 2 men, 2 women, or 1 of each, it is an association of those people.

Finally, this is not to say that gay marriage is moral, only that it is unethical for anyone to involve themselves in other’s affairs through the force of law, and again ultimately, that it is a greater evil to say that it is the state, and not God, or at best the state, partnered with God, that makes a marriage legitimate. Even with the state out of the marriage business, it may be difficult to find a church to marry two homosexuals. But then, ultimately it might not be an issue, if the state recognizes two people living together for 6 months as common law marriage, they ought to recognize just about any marriage.

Homosexual marriages should pose no threat to the true believer, if they believe that it is only God who sanctions marriages; what difference should it make to them what the state acknowledges as a marriage (which would be necessary in the case of divorce, and dispute settlements)?

From both the religious right and the gay community there should be a call for the separation of the state from marriage.

LvMI at Cameron University in Lawton, Oklahoma



We have just started working to establish a student LvMI at Cameron University. it should be official by sept 11th, Mises's birthday.

The Leadership institute has been very helpfull in helping us become established.