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Atheist Posted: Mon, Jul 5 2010 10:52 PM

I was wondering what is the relationship between being religious and being a libertarian. It seems to me that it is quite evenly split, so basically there is no corellation. I used to be under the impression that the people who are in the libertarian movement are often atheists, but then I seen realize that is not true. Ron Paul, who I really respect a lot, is a creationist. But I can live with that. I will 10 times out ot 10 choose to live in a fundamentalist religious community that consists of tolerable people who are lovers of peace, freedom, and free markets over a society that consists of hardcore atheists who are socialists. I guess 50% of libertarians are religious and the other 50% are secular (not necessarily atheist).

I think it is interesting to ask the same percentage for liberals and conservatives. I think that 98% of conservatives are religious with 2% being atheist. With liberals I would say 70% are relgiious but are the moderate kind of religious people, who belive God is about love, and Jesus is okay with homosexuality, and so forth ... , with 30% secular.

Do you think my numbers are correct?

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Esuric replied on Mon, Jul 5 2010 10:55 PM

There's no connection in anyway whatsoever. Libertarians understand economic theory and they value liberty. That's all.

"If we wish to preserve a free society, it is essential that we recognize that the desirability of a particular object is not sufficient justification for the use of coercion."

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Conza88 replied on Tue, Jul 6 2010 1:26 AM

"Ron Paul, who I really respect a lot, is a creationist."

No. He is not.

"Do you think my numbers are correct?"

No.

Do I think there is any direct connection between religion (question of whether there is a god or not and political philosophy?)

No. It is completely irrelevent. Natural law is neither pro or anti religious.

Ron Paul is for self-government when compared to the Constitution. He's an anarcho-capitalist. Proof.
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baxter replied on Tue, Jul 6 2010 6:10 AM

>I was wondering what is the relationship between being religious and being a libertarian.

They are sometimes in conflict. Like if my neighbor wants to open up a gay brothel - or a lobster restaurant (where people eat shellfish). Since both acts involve abominations, it is my religious duty to stone him

 As a religious libertarian, I value plenty over poverty, peace over war, and a magical bearded old guy over childish fictional characters like Santa Claus.

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As a Christian, I will take a hardcore atheist for a politician who understands liberty and free market capitalism over most Christians I know who (probably well-meaning to their faith) do not understand the proper disjunction between church and state. What many Christians do not understand is that true faith does not necessitate a theocracy/theonomy. We are ambassadors for Christ and our citizenship is in heaven. The kingdom of God is not of this world. The Apostles were not on a mission to convert their oppressive government into a theocracy; they were simply spreading the Gospel through voluntary means.

No faith can be pure if it is coerced by the long arm of the law. One must be free to NOT be a Christian to be an actual Christian.

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Bert replied on Tue, Jul 6 2010 10:18 AM

Will these threads ever end?

I had always been impressed by the fact that there are a surprising number of individuals who never use their minds if they can avoid it, and an equal number who do use their minds, but in an amazingly stupid way. - Carl Jung, Man and His Symbols
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