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DanielMuff posted on Wed, Sep 23 2009 8:06 PM

After posting a Ron Paul video on my FaceBook, I got the following comment: "Uh free market neoliberalism created the crisis you dumb butt. Where are you learning economics"

What is "free market neoliberalism"? 

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
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Daniel:

After posting a Ron Paul video on my FaceBook, I got the following comment: "Uh free market neoliberalism created the crisis you dumb butt. Where are you learning economics"

What is "free market neoliberalism"? 



Someone who doesn't know their terminology, imo.

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Daniel:
What is "free market neoliberalism"? 

Chicago School + right wing, incl supply side and deregulation.

Reagan, Thatcher, Hayek, Friedman all considered neoliberals by ignorant progressives.

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It wasn't a YouTube comment, it was a FaceBook comment.

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!"
Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."

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Daniel:

It wasn't a YouTube comment, it was a FaceBook comment.

Damn, I mixed up threads again lol.  This is why I should post once at a time, I guess :\

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liberty student:

Daniel:
What is "free market neoliberalism"? 

Chicago School + right wing, incl supply side and deregulation.

Reagan, Thatcher, Hayek, Friedman all considered neoliberals by ignorant progressives.

So his premise is that Ron Paul is free market neoliberal. Which is false. I guess he knows nothing about Ron Paul.

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!"
Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."

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Daniel:

liberty student:

Daniel:
What is "free market neoliberalism"? 

Chicago School + right wing, incl supply side and deregulation.

Reagan, Thatcher, Hayek, Friedman all considered neoliberals by ignorant progressives.

So his premise is that Ron Paul is free market neoliberal. Which is false. I guess he knows nothing about Ron Paul.

Oh, but he heard his name mentioned with all those other right-wing nut extremists when talking to his circle of friends, so obviously, it must be true. 

That is the type of reasoning you are up against, if you boldly decide to argue.

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It's like that idiotic article Thom Hartmann had on the Huffpo a few months ago, where he called Mises, Rand and Hayek responsible for the economic crisis, and may have insinuated they are neoliberals.

Ayn Rand is another "neoliberal" according to some fools.

It's just another epithet like Paultard.

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Nitroadict:

Daniel:

liberty student:

Daniel:
What is "free market neoliberalism"? 

Chicago School + right wing, incl supply side and deregulation.

Reagan, Thatcher, Hayek, Friedman all considered neoliberals by ignorant progressives.

So his premise is that Ron Paul is free market neoliberal. Which is false. I guess he knows nothing about Ron Paul.

 

Oh, but he heard his name mentioned with all those other right-wing nut extremists when talking to his circle of friends, so obviously, it must be true. 

That is the type of reasoning you are up against, if you boldly decide to argue.

He's got a BA and an MA from Berkeley, and is getting a PhD from U. Texas. So much for public education.

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
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So what would be the problem with blaming the current crisis on "free market neoliberalism" (as defined by LibertyStudent).

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!"
Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."

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Daniel:
What is "free market neoliberalism"?
A buzzword used by angry Marxists to describe crony fascism and socialism.

 

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Daniel:

So what would be the problem with blaming the current crisis on "free market neoliberalism" (as defined by LibertyStudent).

The problem would be that they're blaming the current crisis on those who essentially predicted the crisis (e.g. Hayek, possibly Friedman).

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Praetyre replied on Wed, Sep 23 2009 11:15 PM

As far as I've been able to tell, neoliberalism is like neoconservatism with more focus on the economy. I believe they favour subsidies to politically connected multinational corporations, rather than tariffs, and bears little in common with the classical liberals of old, like LvM. There is a local party here in New Zealand called the ACT Party that seems to follow this ideology.

Basically, it's confusing crony capitalism and socialism-for-the-rich with actual, laissez faire capitalism. It's akin to confusing Meet the Spartans with the real 300, or a bottle of water filled up with red dye with a vintage wine.

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One of its hallmarks is that it supposedly treats the nation as a firm the aim of which is to maximise wealth. I.e. neo-mercantilism.

Freedom of markets is positively correlated with the degree of evolution in any society...

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The guy made two mistakes after watching the video:

1) He assumed that when Ron Paul said "fee market", Ron Paul meant "free market neoliberalism"

2) He assumed I favored a "neoliberal free market"

This the same guy who thinks I am a Republican/McCain supporter for having called Obama a communist and comparing Obama to Castro.

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!"
Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."

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