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WETEF is wikileaks doing?

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you12 Posted: Mon, Nov 29 2010 2:23 AM

They certainly love attention. Why leak it to media outlets and that too in small segements. Upload it on the main website and torrents. Done deal. I just hope something is not fishy here.

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Kakugo replied on Mon, Nov 29 2010 3:37 AM

Two reasons.

First, Wikileaks' attempt to gain attention with their own version of the "Pentagon Papers" was a disaster. Plainly said the public reacted by yawning and scratching their nether regions, like they always do. Medias just looked the other way. Wikileaks had put a lot of effort into the operation and they failed spectacularly by grossly overestimating the average person's moral stature and grossly underestimating the medias' servilism. This time, by publishing "secret" reports about politican's personal lives they will surely be much more successful.

Second. Julian Assange is a wanted man: he's wanted on rape charges in Sweden. These accusations are as phony as most of my teeth: Sweden has long been a US lackey in spite of all their chauvinistic talks about moral superiority (remember the whole Pirate Bay server saga?). But this is nothing compared to what the US could do to Assange, his crew and their informants. Wikileaks took notice and switched to harmless "secrets". Vladimir Putin is "an extremely authoritarian figure": I am so freaking shocked! Nicholas Sarkozy has "an arrogant nature and quickly alienates everybody who comes into contact with him": wow! Silvio Berlusconi is "bodily weakened by frequent sex orgies": who would have thought about that? I bet all those gossip magazines directors are choking themselves with envy. wink

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The State Department of United States turns out to have demanded comprehensive personal information of every high level official and diplomats living in the countries that are THEIR OWN ALLIES.

Hillary Clinton apparently wants to know the closest personal details of British members of parliament, of UN secretaries, of the Italian prime minister, and so on. Even down to biometric scan information.

On top of which, the American government has turned out to have nothing but contempt for its closest allies in foreign governments, and the leaks show very unflattering opinions of the Turkish government, the German government, the Italian government, the French government, everybody. Meanwhile, it also exposes statements from American allies, who are shown to be people of very dubious judgment, such as the Saudi king and a fellow emir who want nothing less than a full blown war with Iran.

I wonder what it means for a government to be allied with the American government, when the American government will still regard them with nothing but suspicion and contempt and will permanently keep tabs on them out of disgust.

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ulrichPf replied on Mon, Nov 29 2010 5:48 AM

This whole affair is one big ant-climax. Most of the knowledge is already out there, unless they had sensational revelations like the real reason for the murder of Kennedy or some new story about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour, this leak is as lame as it can get.

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Gero replied on Mon, Nov 29 2010 10:57 AM

“They certainly love attention.”

Publishing what whistleblowers gave them is to “love attention”?

“Why leak it to media outlets”

So they can tell their viewers.

“that too in small segements”

Thousands of documents is “small” to you?

“Medias just looked the other way.”

The leaked documents were published by The New York Times, France's Le Monde, Britain's Guardian newspaper, German magazine Der Spiegel and others.

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Player replied on Mon, Nov 29 2010 11:29 AM

Another option is that the "rape" (sic) charge is based on highly feminist legislation that lowers the proof requirement, etc.. There is no need to blame the US government, when feminist welfare state creates a lot of problems by its own.

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Clayton replied on Mon, Nov 29 2010 1:35 PM

I have yet to see anything really, really damning. It would only take one, tiny nugget to unmask the naked imperialism beneath the US government's facade as "the government of the freest people on earth". In all those thousands and thousands of documents, there's nothing of this nature yet this is the daily preoccupation of our State department. Assange is, one way or the other, working for the puppet-masters. Maybe he's an unwitting dupe. Maybe he's a cynical lackey. Either way, these "leaks" are a memetic vaccination against any real news that might get out about the wanton criminal activity in all the Western governments, most especially the US government.

"Did you hear the leak about CIA running its own phony terror cell?"

"That's old news, I heard about all that leak stuff - Julian Assange and all that, you know, the rapist guy - and there was nothing substantial to it except that it put our diplomats and soldiers in danger."

Consider the "Collateral Murder" video that was leaked - it was a little outrageous because civilians aren't used to the callous nature of military communications and do not understand the (natural) feeling of exhiliration that even good guys experience when they've hit their target. That the target happened to be civilians is regrettable but it's not completely impossible to understand... after all, that photographic equipment did look like some kind of RPG or other weapon when the one guy slung it around the corner of that building. And is military encryption really so weak that WikiLeaks could crack it? Either it wasn't encrypted or WikiLeaks sure as hell wouldn't be able to crack it. The NSA might have a megawatt-backdoor into Triple-DES but it's no walk in the park. You're not going to sit down on your MacBook Air, guess a few passphrases and crack it.

This is managed dissent.

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you12 replied on Mon, Nov 29 2010 1:45 PM

“They certainly love attention.”

Publishing what whistleblowers gave them is to “love attention”?

 

They created anticipation instead of just releasing them and saying take a look!

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Player replied on Mon, Nov 29 2010 2:01 PM

 

"This is managed dissent".

Absolutely.

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