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Question about the Federalist... did they want stability for the country or did they just want economic fasicsm?

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No2statism posted on Sun, Jul 22 2012 10:02 PM

I've long thought that the Federalists ratified it for their own financial gain, but some dispute that.  All of the arguments against the Articles of Confederation were non-sensical and proven wrong by the time the whisky rebellion was over.

I've thought that there would've been economic instability even if the Federal Constitution had been ratified in 1781, because there is always an economic contraction right after a huge war.

Am I missing something?  How can anyone suggest that the Federalists wanted the best for society?  They say the Articles of Confederation only allowed for chaos, but it seems to me like examining history refutes that argument.

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No2statism:

I've long thought that the Federalists ratified it for their own financial gain, but some dispute that.  All of the arguments against the Articles of Confederation were non-sensical and proven wrong by the time the whisky rebellion was over.

I've thought that there would've been economic instability even if the Federal Constitution had been ratified in 1781, because there is always an economic contraction right after a huge war.

Am I missing something?  How can anyone suggest that the Federalists wanted the best for society?  They say the Articles of Confederation only allowed for chaos, but it seems to me like examining history refutes that argument.

You're correct; the federalists promoted completely nonsensical arguments for the creation of the federal government. Alexander Hamilton was a socialist (by philosophy, of course, as the term wasn't coined until the 19th century), and he hated the idea of states being sovereign since they could not be ruled. For God's sake, he didn't even want the Bill of Rights, yet Levin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck (all federalists) will never admit this, nor that Lincoln, the founder of the modern Republican party, was as big government as they come.  

Every single prediction on the part of the anti-federalists has come true: a standing army will lead to imperialism; the federal ability to tax the states will interfere with states' sovereignty; senators in one state will make horrible decisions for states that they know nothing of; the federal government will grow so large and powerful that it will act as one, huge monarchy...so on and so forth.

I say an ideal constitution for the USA would be to amend the Articles of Confederation by adding a bill of rights. That's perfection imo.

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