I found this list of human rights in spanish class. Have fun debunking it:
1. All the people are born free and equal.
2. No one will be subjected to torture nor to cruel treatments and penalties.
3. Everyone has the right to protection by the law.
4. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought.
5. The will of the people is the base of the authority of public power.
6. [Everyone has the right to] the free choice of their job.
7. [Everyone has the right to] a reasonable limitation of the length of their work.
8. [Everyone has the right to] housing, medical assistance, and social services.
9. Everyone should be free.
10. Everyone will be subjected only to the limitations established by the law.
Schools are labour camps.
eliotn:I found this list of human rights in spanish class. Have fun debunking it: 1. All the people are born free and equal. 2. No one will be subjected to torture nor to cruel treatments and penalties. 3. Everyone has the right to protection by the law. 4. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought.
Good so far.
eliotn:5. The will of the people is the base of the authority of public power.
In some sense, yes.
eliotn:6. [Everyone has the right to] the free choice of their job.
If this is all there is, ok.
eliotn:7. [Everyone has the right to] a reasonable limitation of the length of their work.
Now it's veering off....
eliotn:8. [Everyone has the right to] housing, medical assistance, and social services.
And there's the horrific crash scene where it contradicts itself.
"All the people are born free and equal."
I agree people are born free but "equal"? In what sense? I can't play golf as well as Tiger Woods and that isn't fair! The government has got to do something about that!
I am an eklektarchist not an anarchist.
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That depends on what it means by a "right" to protection by the law. Certainly not socialized provision thereof.
Freedom of markets is positively correlated with the degree of evolution in any society...
Well, I want to share something, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, adopted by the UN. Lets see if it violates them or contradicts itself. And this is how the list is made.
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.
No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.
All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.
Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.
(1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
(2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
(2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
(1) Everyone has the right to a nationality.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.
(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
(2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
(1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
(2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.
(3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.
Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.
(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.
Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.
(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.
(1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
(2) Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.
(3) Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.
(1) Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.
(2) Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.
Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.
(1) Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.
(2) In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
(3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.
eliotn:I found this list of human rights in spanish class. Have fun debunking it:
After about article 25, I could swear that I saw Barry Obamas face shining through the computer screen with the biggest, dumbest grin ever.
What the Statist Reads:
eliotn: 3. Everyone has the right to protection by the law.
socialized police, courts, etc.
eliotn: 4. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought.
subsidized political opinions (NPR, Fairness Laws)
(anarchists though, aren't people)
eliotn: 6. [Everyone has the right to] the free choice of their job.
no one has the right to the free choice of who they employ!
everyone has a right to forced vacations and holidays.
eliotn: 8. [Everyone has the right to] housing, medical assistance, and social services.
subsidized healthcare
eliotn: 9. Everyone should be free.
everyone should live under a democracy
eliotn: 10. Everyone will be subjected only to the limitations established by the law.
Or any definition of the word "limitations" that the state will itself enforce and create.
eliotn:4. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought.
WTF is this supposed to be? No hypnosis or brain control?
eliotn:9. Everyone should be free.
Of what?
eliotn:10. Everyone will be subjected only to the limitations established by the law.
As opposed to the laws of nature?
A lot of this looks similar to FDRs "Second Bill of Rights".
"All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree." -James Madison
"If government were efficient, it would cease to exist."
The U.N.: These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Viva la statism!!
"As long as there are sovereign nations possessing great power, war is inevitable."
The entire problem, of course, is that a state or series of states admisters this, and hence even if they got their definition of rights correct, it's an illegitimate document.
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.
Technically, all human beings are not born free, in that all of us are born into political slavery through the mechanism of the ficticous "social contract". In the sense of what is just, however, yes, humans are born with the same fundamental rights by virtue of being rational animals.
They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
It starts getting kind of rhetorical here. "Spirit of brotherhood" is vague.
Well yes, every human being has the same fundamental rights. "Human rights" is just the sum total of individual rights. Rights are not entitlements in the sense of a privilege though or any unchosen positive obligation on others to appease one's desires. So this gets into the meat and potatoes of what specifically we're calling "rights", and the positive vs. negative rights question rears its ugly head.
True, except it's a bit vague what "security of person" means.
Since it inherently violates individual sovereignty, yes, slavery is illegitimate.
Covered by life and liberty.
This is vague and runs into problems over how one views "law". No singular law over all people is necessary. What's to be recognized is individual liberty, and individual liberty precedes the law. The law can only legitimately be a product of individual liberty. But the particular character of a particular instance or application of such law isn't necessarily universal.
Once again this runs into problems related to how one views "law". The only context in which this makes sense and is legitimate is if it's the policy of a single competitor in the provision of law, but not as a universal law that all law providers must adhere to such a policy. That being said, in the context of an individual competitor for the provision of law, I think this makes sense in terms of the consumer base.
This reduces to the declaration of a monopoly court, and should read "everyone is required by law to patronaize this particular court in such cases".
Sounds reasonable to me.
I mean it sounds good, but what does it actually mean in practise?
I would hope not (and hopefully this applies to the law providers themselves), although I reject the idea of a "right to reputation".
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state. (2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country. (1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution. (2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations. (1) Everyone has the right to a nationality. (2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.
This can't be made coherant because we're dealing with illegitimate borders claimed by states. It's predicated on states.
Knight_of_BAAWA: eliotn:I found this list of human rights in spanish class. Have fun debunking it: 1. All the people are born free and equal. 2. No one will be subjected to torture nor to cruel treatments and penalties. 3. Everyone has the right to protection by the law. 4. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought. Good so far.
People don't have a right to protection by the law anymore than they have a right to a bicycle; if they want it they had better produce it or buy it.
Peace
That's almost exactly what I was gonna say, with the exception of the bicycle. I was going to say iPod.
Pro Christo et Libertate integre!
Knight_of_BAAWA:Good so far.
JonBostwick:People don't have a right to protection by the law anymore than they have a right to a bicycle; if they want it they had better produce it or buy it.
That's not what I was talking about.
It sounds somewhat right. The problem is that the state continuously violate pretty much all the principle set forward.
It is very much egalitarian, yes, but not in the sense of trying to force us all to be uniform. Rather they recognize each of us as a unique individual.
Some of their principle is quite problematic in the sense that they assume the labor theory of values.(How one determine fair and equal wage???)
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That reminds me of that horrible song by Bob Sinclair or whoever that is always on the radio.
"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows"
Bob Dylan