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krazy kaju Posted: Tue, Mar 23 2010 8:00 PM

Just wondering: How many people here bodybuild, powerlift, or weightlift?

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fakename replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 8:07 PM

I weightlift only a little. It's pretty okay and let me say that I'm definitely more muscular now than when I began so that's good. Not saying I can lift anymore than my body weight though Smile

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Do you weightlift or weight train?

Please forgive me for being skeptical - a lot of people confuse the terms. And I'm sure you can lift more than your bodyweight for at least one exercise. (;

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Sage replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 8:21 PM

I occasionally do Crossfit workouts.

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Crossfit is cool. Do you use kettlebells? I have a not-very-well-used 1 pood kettlebell in my room... :(

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I've been doing cardio daily for about half a year, and am about to start weight lifting. I've got all this muscle on my legs, but barely anywhere else.

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I squatted 450 in high school, on the machine tho. 

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Chris replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 8:48 PM

I used to bodybuild, then I got tired of that and I decided to try olympic weight lifting which was the most challenging thing I have ever tried.  For the past couple years I've been power lifting and I enjoy it the most out of the three; nothing beats the rush of max effort deadlifts Smile

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filc replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 9:12 PM

I used to be a heavy builder and weighed about 20lb more. Then lived in a third world country for a few years which got rid of that.

Currently I crossfit at least twice a week, and yes we use kettlebells alot. Smile Its been my favorite method of working out to date and the results have been the greatest I've had yet.

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Bert replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 9:27 PM

I do calf and thigh exercises (without weights).  I didn't start til the summer/fall of 08 when I hurt my ankle skateboarding.  I've been skateboarding since 02, and it was the first serious injury I had.  Started doing doing calf exercises to work out the ankle and build strength again.  The tension and exercise helped more than not putting pressure on it at all (the pain didn't go away for weeks with no stress on the ankle).  Eventually through weeks of exercise my ankle was stronger than before, but I got lazy and stopped exercising, and this past January I hurt my ankle again (and again 2 weeks ago).  I just recently started exercising again.

Yet, I have not seen a doctor yet about this...

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Le Master replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 9:55 PM

I'm pretty big into it. I've done a few bodybuilding competitions. I was runner-up in the heavyweight class of Teen Georgia a few years ago.

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Okay, if a revolution ever happens, I want Krazy Kaju and Le Master in my contingent.

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krazy kaju replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 10:03 PM

Chris:

I used to bodybuild, then I got tired of that and I decided to try olympic weight lifting which was the most challenging thing I have ever tried.  For the past couple years I've been power lifting and I enjoy it the most out of the three; nothing beats the rush of max effort deadlifts Smile

Awesome! If I assumed that you do Westside would I be wrong?

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I just finished the Starting Strength workouts and am on my second day of the Texas Method.

 

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maxpot46 replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 10:15 PM

I've lifted weights for about 20 years.  I adore my Bowflex Ultimate 2.

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Le Master replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 10:20 PM

Grayson Lilburne:

Okay, if a revolution ever happens, I want Krazy Kaju and Le Master in my contingent.

No

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Le Master:

Grayson Lilburne:

Okay, if a revolution ever happens, I want Krazy Kaju and Le Master in my contingent.

No

:P

 

What?  Physical strength wouldn't be an advantage in revolutionary combat?

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krazy kaju replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 10:32 PM

Grayson Lilburne:

Okay, if a revolution ever happens, I want Krazy Kaju and Le Master in my contingent.

Haha, thanks for the compliment but a year ago I was 5'9 and I wrestled in the 125lb weight class (my normal weight at the time was 145lbs though). I've only started serious weight training in the past few months. So I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not big by any means. My goal is to win a powerlifting comp some day... *sighs*

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krazy kaju replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 10:37 PM

Smiling Dave:
I just finished the Starting Strength workouts and am on my second day of the Texas Method.

Nice! How long have you been working on the Starting Strength workouts? I'm doing 5 x 5 now, though I'm not sure what I should go to afterward I'm finished with that.

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krazy kaju:
I've only started serious weight training in the past few months. My goal is to win a powerlifting comp some day... *sighs*

Do you have a knowledgable experienced person to guide you? Cause you can make plenty of mistakes on your own, like what exercises to do, how often, what form to use, how much to eat, it's endless.

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krazy kaju:

Nice! How long have you been working on the Starting Strength workouts? I'm doing 5 x 5 now, though I'm not sure what I should go to afterward I'm finished with that.

The first time I did them it was for three months, then I had to stop working out because of real world things. A while later I started over for two months and felt I had to move on to the Texas Method. Once again reality interfered, and a month ago I started over again. This time things went very quickly. In a month I was back to where I had left off.

Yeah, I've heard good things about 5x5.

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krazy kaju replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 10:46 PM

I understand the exercises; I have worked out throughout my four years of high school. The problem was that I would always cut an obscene amount of weight during wrestling season, thereby erasing most gains. Though now that I've started working out again, I feel like I have a problem with the nutrition aspect. I honestly feel like I can't eat enough to grow to my full potential, which is quite frustrating. Always been good at cutting weight, never been good at gaining it. :(

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I weightlift about 3x a week which includes just about everything. I try to get cardio (1-2 miles at a jogging pace) in at least 4-5 times a week as well.

I eat pretty damn healthy (mostly natural, unprocessed foods) and have an ocassional cheat day here and there. Since, the summer is coming an ocassional beer will slip in there too.

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krazy kaju:

I understand the exercises; I have worked out throughout my four years of high school. The problem was that I would always cut an obscene amount of weight during wrestling season, thereby erasing most gains. Though now that I've started working out again, I feel like I have a problem with the nutrition aspect. I honestly feel like I can't eat enough to grow to my full potential, which is quite frustrating. Always been good at cutting weight, never been good at gaining it. :(

ever heard of GOMAD?

 

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filc replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 11:31 PM

krazy kaju:

I understand the exercises; I have worked out throughout my four years of high school. The problem was that I would always cut an obscene amount of weight during wrestling season, thereby erasing most gains. Though now that I've started working out again, I feel like I have a problem with the nutrition aspect. I honestly feel like I can't eat enough to grow to my full potential, which is quite frustrating. Always been good at cutting weight, never been good at gaining it. :(

That happened to me my first few years of highschool(like 10 years ago or so..). Ultimately though I quit wrestling and joined the ski team. 3 years later outside of HS I was benching 320lb and weighed 185. Couldn't have done that at all if I continued wrestling. Still, in retrospect, now that I am doing crossfit,  I think I am healthier now with a more intense style workout. The style is very similar to a wrestling  style conditioning workout only with strength built into it. Even though I was much bigger back then, I didn't feel nearly as healthy or as physically capable as I do now thanks to xfit.

 

Here is an example of a more strength oriented workout.

The workouts differe from all variuos forms of high intensity. Sometimes we do strength on it's own, other times it's incorperated into the workout. All kinds of different objects are used. The thing I like about it over heavy heavy lifting is that this is high paced, you never have time to get bored. It's always fun.

 

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Chris replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 11:41 PM

krazy kaju:

Chris:

I used to bodybuild, then I got tired of that and I decided to try olympic weight lifting which was the most challenging thing I have ever tried.  For the past couple years I've been power lifting and I enjoy it the most out of the three; nothing beats the rush of max effort deadlifts Smile

Awesome! If I assumed that you do Westside would I be wrong?

Yes, I'm currently doing Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 program and I've been doing it since August with some seriously great strength gains.  I've heard West Side for Skinny Bastards, 1 & 2, are great programs (I think Joe DeFranco made them though I could be wrong).  Wendler's 5/3/1 doesn't have any dynamic effort like most westside barbell programs do, but I may wind up trying it some time.  You getting into powerlifting kaju?

As a general note for this thread, I would recommend anybody who wants to do olympic weightlifting to get a coach.  I was told the same thing when I started and I didn't listen, and it was a struggle like no other for over a year.

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Chris replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 11:45 PM

krazy kaju:

I understand the exercises; I have worked out throughout my four years of high school. The problem was that I would always cut an obscene amount of weight during wrestling season, thereby erasing most gains. Though now that I've started working out again, I feel like I have a problem with the nutrition aspect. I honestly feel like I can't eat enough to grow to my full potential, which is quite frustrating. Always been good at cutting weight, never been good at gaining it. :(

I was the same way but then wound up gaining 50 lbs. within a few years.  Red meat and eating like a complete slob in general combined with deadlifts, power cleans, bench press, standing press, squats, and rows will work wonders for putting on mass.

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I use weights for building muscles that contribute to speed and agility.  I'm trying to get up to a world class sprinter.

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filc replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 11:49 PM

Chris:
I was the same way but then wound up gaining 50 lbs. within a few years.  Red meat and eating like a complete slob in general combined with deadlifts, power cleans, bench press, standing press, squats, and rows will work wonders for putting on mass.

Quoted for truth, if you want to mass up you just need to eat(alot) while you work out heavily. This is how I was able to amass so much weight before and lift so much in my earlier ages.

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Chris replied on Tue, Mar 23 2010 11:52 PM

Caley McKibbin:

I use weights for building muscles that contribute to speed and agility.  I'm trying to get up to a world class sprinter.

Power snatch and power clean will really boost your sprinting, especially off the line.

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Chris:

Caley McKibbin:

I use weights for building muscles that contribute to speed and agility.  I'm trying to get up to a world class sprinter.

Power snatch and power clean will really boost your sprinting, especially off the line.

What muscle groups are those supposed to target?

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AF replied on Wed, Mar 24 2010 7:00 AM

I weight train and do some weightlifting. Trying to get into it a bit more now that the swimming season is done. Felt pretty terrible today though with my snatches and squats.

 

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What muscle groups are those supposed to target?

Pretty much all of them, though with a heavy emphasis on the posterior chain and the quadriceps.

What should be of particular interest to you is that at some high level competition (may have even been an olymics) they tested the general athletic abilities of various athletes, and the weightlifters had routinely faster 40m times than anyone else, even the sprinters.

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I've always been extremely un-sporty, but over the last four or five years been going to the gym pretty regularly, never been able to get any really serious gains though. I've switched around my program a bit, and so on, but I reckon I've never had a long sustained period of eating enough and working out regularly enough combined with low enough drug use to get any massive results.

I'd like some advice though. I'm going to restart today or tomorrow, I want a new program. I'm 19 and weigh 79 kg/175lb, probably 15%ish body fat, I'm not sure I haven't done a measure in 5+ years.

1RM squat is around 200lb, deadlift around 230lb, bench about 165lb.

Anyone got any ideas? I have a "gym" at the end of my garden with a squat rack and a bench, about 300lb worth of weights for an olympic bar, got a EZ curl bar as well, plus adjustable olympic dumbbells.

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I. Ryan replied on Wed, Mar 24 2010 10:57 AM

Thedesolateone:

I've always been extremely un-sporty, but over the last four or five years been going to the gym pretty regularly, never been able to get any really serious gains though. I've switched around my program a bit, and so on, but I reckon I've never had a long sustained period of eating enough and working out regularly enough combined with low enough drug use to get any massive results.

I'd like some advice though. I'm going to restart today or tomorrow, I want a new program. I'm 19 and weigh 79 kg/175lb, probably 15%ish body fat, I'm not sure I haven't done a measure in 5+ years.

1RM squat is around 200lb, deadlift around 230lb, bench about 165lb.

Anyone got any ideas? I have a "gym" at the end of my garden with a squat rack and a bench, about 300lb worth of weights for an olympic bar, got a EZ curl bar as well, plus adjustable olympic dumbbells.

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Read this. With the barbell, the bench, the plates, and the dumbbells, you got all you need.

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ladyattis replied on Wed, Mar 24 2010 11:14 AM

Grayson Lilburne:

Okay, if a revolution ever happens, I want Krazy Kaju and Le Master in my contingent.

 

What if it turns Mad Max? You'll want a crazy bitch like me that can cobble together engines and some how make it work. :3

 

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krazy kaju:

Just wondering: How many people here bodybuild, powerlift, or weightlift?

I trained mostly the big three while in college, but never went to any meets since I was more into Judo/BJJ than lifting. Now I do the O-lifts to stay in shape.

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Sage replied on Wed, Mar 24 2010 11:32 AM

BTW, Rippetoe was interviewed by Motorhome Diaries here.

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krazy kaju replied on Wed, Mar 24 2010 12:33 PM

Smiling Dave:

krazy kaju:

I understand the exercises; I have worked out throughout my four years of high school. The problem was that I would always cut an obscene amount of weight during wrestling season, thereby erasing most gains. Though now that I've started working out again, I feel like I have a problem with the nutrition aspect. I honestly feel like I can't eat enough to grow to my full potential, which is quite frustrating. Always been good at cutting weight, never been good at gaining it. :(

ever heard of GOMAD?

lol yes. The old "squats and milk" program. I think I just need to man-up and do it.

filc:

Here is an example of a more strength oriented workout.

That looks like an absolutely sick workout.

Chris:
You getting into powerlifting kaju?

Yeah, I plan on it. My university holds a powerlifting comp every year, which I plan to win next year at 190lbs. From there, I wanna look around and find some more comps to go to.

Chris:
As a general note for this thread, I would recommend anybody who wants to do olympic weightlifting to get a coach.  I was told the same thing when I started and I didn't listen, and it was a struggle like no other for over a year.

O-lifting seems super sweet, and I am interested in it, but I don't plan on getting into it because I don't know how to even start.

Chris:
I was the same way but then wound up gaining 50 lbs. within a few years.  Red meat and eating like a complete slob in general combined with deadlifts, power cleans, bench press, standing press, squats, and rows will work wonders for putting on mass.

I would do the same but I'm a bit short on cash. I'll probably pick up more working hours though and once I man-up I'll go hardcore and drink a gallon of milk a day. :-O

Solid_Choke:
I trained mostly the big three while in college, but never went to any meets since I was more into Judo/BJJ than lifting. Now I do the O-lifts to stay in shape.

I did BJJ at a local university when I wrestled in high school. It's a really cool sport. Hopefully I'll pick it up again soon. But first I want to gain lots and lots of muscle mass!

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