Simon Lote: An action may be moral but not wise and yes I agree anyone today advocating fighting a one-man guerilla war against the state is a fool or an FBI agent. I am certainly not advocating anyone going out and committing illegal acts. However, I don't share your view that armed struggle always leads to victory for the state as there have been numerous countries that have secured their independence through exactly those means - America included. Secondly I do not share the view that the state can be persuaded to go quietly into that good night rather it will require a highly organised and dedicated minority to overthrow it.
An action may be moral but not wise and yes I agree anyone today advocating fighting a one-man guerilla war against the state is a fool or an FBI agent. I am certainly not advocating anyone going out and committing illegal acts.
However, I don't share your view that armed struggle always leads to victory for the state as there have been numerous countries that have secured their independence through exactly those means - America included.
Secondly I do not share the view that the state can be persuaded to go quietly into that good night rather it will require a highly organised and dedicated minority to overthrow it.
"However, I don't share your view that armed struggle always leads to victory for the state as there have been numerous countries that have secured their independence through exactly those means - America included."
In the end, as elsewhere, all that the American revolution accomplished was to throw of one group of oppressors and replace it with another [some might even argue that the replacement was in fact just the original oppressor, i.e. the British Empire, disguised- but that's a whole other can of worms].
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Onebornfree drawing clonclusions he wants to draw from pictures of destroyed buildings? Never heard of!
He used force. So he was not libertarian.
Not offices and bureaucrats, but big business deserves credit for the fact that most of the families in the United States own a motorcar and a radio set. - Ludwig von Mises
He was not not a libertarian because he used forced. He was not libertarian because he murdered.
To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process. Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!" Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."
Blowing up children tends to violate the NAP.
He most likely would have claimed that the state did violate the NAP first and that the kids in the creche at the state building were just collateral damage.
Still a bit odd I think. But that's because I don't follow his method to resolve the issue.
al gore the idiot: On the fifteenth anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, this is one thing I was curious about. McVeigh identified himself as a libertarian. He voted for Harry Browne while in prison back in 96. He was firercely anti-government as seen by the bombing of a federal building and revenge against Waco and Ruby Ridge incident.
On the fifteenth anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, this is one thing I was curious about. McVeigh identified himself as a libertarian. He voted for Harry Browne while in prison back in 96. He was firercely anti-government as seen by the bombing of a federal building and revenge against Waco and Ruby Ridge incident.
He could be a libertatian, except for the fact that OKC was an inside job and this McVeigh dude was a decoy.
What is the evidence for that statement. Wasn't he just a single disgruntled perpetrator?
Do you think that if I had any hard evidence for such a fact I would be talking about it in an internet forum?
But I'm inclined towards the conspiracy theory view of the case.
If you ask a liberal, then yes. But so is Hitler.
Freedom of markets is positively correlated with the degree of evolution in any society...
That was quick.
Do you have even a hint of evidence that backs up your theory?
Well for people who consider fascism to be a species of capitalism, it isn't an illogical conclusion to drift towards.
You can certainly act outside of your belief set.
Al_Gore the Idiot: He could be a libertatian, except for the fact that OKC was an inside job and this McVeigh dude was a decoy. Do you have even a hint of evidence that backs up your theory?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMuo-oSk7aQ
I think it was the Marxist-Leninist tag line since the 1930s. "Fascism" is the last stage of "Capitalism".
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/3234092?uid=3739368&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101513387261
http://www.dkrenton.co.uk/old/old3.html