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Worst arguments against anarcho-capitalism?

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MisguidedThoughts Posted: Sun, Jul 25 2010 5:46 AM

I, like many others, have come across some very stupid arguments against anarcho-capitalism. For example "without the government, the environment would be destroyed!". My favorite is "But who would build the roads?". What's yours?

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I as a political science major would be out of a job lol (sorry couldn't resist)

I guess one of my favorites is "Who's going to help the poor?"

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Doegab replied on Sun, Jul 25 2010 7:55 AM

Anything Ayn Rand said.

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As a rule, the best answer to "Who would run the schools, the hospitals, and build the roads" is "Teachers, doctors and construction workers".

Works for me when I get asked that question. Which happens a lot. Almost verbatim, too.

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Sieben replied on Sun, Jul 25 2010 8:43 AM

No final arbiter of disputes

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scineram replied on Sun, Jul 25 2010 8:46 AM

What is wrong with that?

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Sieben replied on Sun, Jul 25 2010 8:55 AM

The "final arbiter" is the state. In conflicts involving the state, it is judge in its own case. The whole point of a final arbiter is to have some sort of impartial "clamp" to disputes.

Morever, it is so easy to conceive of voluntary final arbiters... even wild-west justice was I pick someone I trust, you pick someone you trust, and then they pick a judge for us and that's it. This reveals that for there to be final arbitration depends mostly on people's perceived legitimacy of the judge, and that it is not a unique property of statism.

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MaikU replied on Sun, Jul 25 2010 8:59 AM

Sieben:

No final arbiter of disputes

 

 

love this one. never heard before.

"Dude... Roderick Long is the most anarchisty anarchist that has ever anarchisted!" - Evilsceptic

(english is not my native language, sorry for grammar.)

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Anarcho replied on Sun, Jul 25 2010 9:05 AM

I got this one once and found it kind of funny.

"Private security won't take the same kind of pride in their work that public officers do."  As if workers in the private sector have no pride in the jobs they do.

"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." - Murray N. Rothbard.

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Marked replied on Sun, Jul 25 2010 9:45 AM

Warlords/Evil profit-minded military organizations will SLAUGHTER US ALL!!!!

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Zavoi replied on Sun, Jul 25 2010 1:00 PM

In the interest of truth and objectivity, don't you want to look for the best arguments?

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Anarcho:

I got this one once and found it kind of funny.

"Private security won't take the same kind of pride in their work that public officers do."  As if workers in the private sector have no pride in the jobs they do.

Whoever said that has never met a bouncer from a high-end gentlemen's club or night club.

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!"
Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."

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Joe replied on Sun, Jul 25 2010 2:23 PM

 

I find it funny when people argue with hypotheticals pretty much thinking that all of a sudden under AnCap, anyone that is as rich as Bill Gates is also as evil as Hitler.

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Gero replied on Sun, Jul 25 2010 2:32 PM

An anarcho-capitalist critic’s argument may seem bad to an anarcho-capitalist, but good to the critic who has never heard a good counterargument.

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Lewis S. replied on Sun, Jul 25 2010 2:53 PM

I once got into an argument with a statist that complained about roads, sidewalks, public parks, etc.  I gave him a funny look and commented that I was criticizing an institution that, during the last 100 years, was responsible for more destructive warfare and murder than all other centuries combined, while he was worried about losing good sidewalks.  He shut up after that.  Sometimes people need to be shown they have no perspective.

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Azure replied on Sun, Jul 25 2010 5:54 PM

I once got into an argument with a statist that complained about roads, sidewalks, public parks, etc.  I gave him a funny look and commented that I was criticizing an institution that, during the last 100 years, was responsible for more destructive warfare and murder than all other centuries combined, while he was worried about losing good sidewalks.  He shut up after that.  Sometimes people need to be shown they have no perspective.

To paraphrase Bill Irving (Or was it BIl Kristol?), "It is only because conservatives have the courage to stand up and face the enemy that libertarians are able to worry about such petty concerns."

If we weren't murdering the rest of the world, they'd be murdering us! The only nation that can be happy and prosperous is the dominating conquerer.

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Mike replied on Sun, Jul 25 2010 6:52 PM

I find it funny when people argue with hypothetical pretty much thinking that all of a sudden under AnCap, anyone that is as rich as Bill Gates is also as evil as Hitler.

 

the above made me remember that in a free society it is likely there would not be someone as rich as Gates- because the barriers of entry would be demolished and he would have had to build something a lot better than windows to earn billions

Be responsible, ease suffering; spay or neuter your pets.

We must get them to understand that government solutions are the problem!

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Consultant replied on Fri, Jul 30 2010 10:22 AM

Yes, whenever Bill Gates get mentionned, it's time to point out IP law and how MSFT lawyers abuse it to bully small competitors.

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John Ess replied on Fri, Jul 30 2010 10:35 AM

No wars to spend money on to boost the economy.

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MatthewF replied on Fri, Jul 30 2010 12:34 PM

You have to have a government because people are evil. Hear this all the time.

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Clayton replied on Fri, Jul 30 2010 12:44 PM

@MatthewF: Yes, I get a similar one from my relatives... "If government is as corrupt as you say it is, then that just reaffirms that there will always be government since people will always be corrupt."

Agh!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Even though I'm not an AnCap, I often hear "well if you dont like government why dont you just move to Somalia"

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Pretty much any argument by Rettoper.

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!"
Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."

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filc replied on Mon, Aug 2 2010 6:19 PM

Pretty much any argument by Rettoper.

I second this.

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"We are richer than ever before."

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What's so bad about Rettoper's arguments?I read the debate thread and agreed with him on a lot of things.

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filc replied on Mon, Aug 2 2010 7:51 PM

What's so bad about Rettoper's arguments

You mean besides the part about them being incorrect?

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Such as?

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