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The Totalitarian Mindset in Full Display

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Daniel James Sanchez Posted: Mon, Oct 4 2010 11:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qff2xJgDuOY

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Article.

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Don't agree with us? Kill switch. It's pretty hard to find the humor in that video.

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The most disturbing part of this is that it is promoting 10:10 campaign.

Freedom has always been the only route to progress.

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William replied on Tue, Oct 5 2010 12:15 AM

Wow.  I am in absolute disbelief that this was in favor of a "pro green" position.  I still don't actually believe that is the case.  If it is, this is just insanity.

Though on a semantic quibble, I may bracket this under "Schumpeter intellectual" than "totalitarian mindset"

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Here's my brief take on it.

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Caley McKibbin:

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Where, Caley?  I searched the forum before posting and nothing came up.
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http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/20072.aspx

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Huh, that's weird.  I searched for 10:10, and that didn't come up.  Oh well.

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They really think this is the way to promote their cause?  Perhaps they will require explosives be implanted at birth.  Ops, I shouldn't give them any ideas.

I'm still having trouble getting over this.  As a farce, it would be a clever way to demonstrate the extremism of the global warmists.  But it was not meant to be a farce?

What kind of people are these?  Whom are we up against?  This is how they think?  They dreamed this up?  "Hey, we'll have a classroom, little kids, a goofy teacher, then she pushes a button and splatters blood and guts all over the classroom.  I'll be great!"  If you don't obey us, fine, your choice.  Boom.  I'll be great!

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This is how they think?

Remember when I said that I define environmentalism as crazy?  Now you know why.  This is surprising as cow eating grass.

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Caley: Remember when I said that I define environmentalism as crazy?  Now you know why.

But its usually hidden.

The people who put this together designed it for the internet, they must have known it would be pulled from T.V.  Millions of kids will watch it.  "Your choice" has a whole new meaning now. 

Hopefully, their effort will backfire when kids see totalitarianism on display.  A new generation of libertarians to spring forth?

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It seems they want to move beyond the "Green" label and would rather we just refer to them as "Red".

I thought the video was satirical at first, but am not entirely shocked that it wasn't. At least we don't have to read into their true motives since they're now willing to wear it on their sleeves.

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Hopefully, their effort will backfire when kids see totalitarianism on display.  A new generation of libertarians to spring forth?

Or executing dissidents becomes the new standard.

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AnonLLF replied on Tue, Oct 5 2010 3:10 PM

Good God that was sick!

However I must add something. Environmentalism need not per se be misanthropic nor statist nor anti-industry.

 

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LeeO replied on Tue, Oct 5 2010 4:57 PM

"We 'killed' five people to make No Pressure - a mere blip compared to the 300,000 real people who now die each year from climate change," Franny Armstrong told the Telegraph.

I wonder how many people die every year due to the economic policies inspired by environmental activists.

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mwalsh replied on Tue, Oct 5 2010 7:32 PM

The odd thing is- there we 2 students, 4 in the office, 1 on the soccer field and 1 in the radio station-

2+4+1+1=5? I thought that equalled 8?

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LeeO replied on Tue, Oct 5 2010 8:22 PM

Didn't you know environmentalists can't count? They put all the numbers into a fancy computer model and it tells them the world is going to end next Thursday.

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It occurred to me that this tactic was used by the Khmer Rouge communists in Cambodia.  It was portrayed in the movie "The Killing Fields". 

The commies were "re-educating" the population.  A group of about one hundred adults were gathered in a tent for "training".  Someone stood up, or raised a hand in disagreement with the "teacher".  A plastic bag was then tied around his head, and he was led out of the tent, never to be seen again.  The tactic left quite an impression on the "students". 

Later in the film, the killing fields were discovered. Skeletons, with bags tied around the head were found by the thousands, with bullet holes through the brain.

This video is like that scene from the movie.  The makers of the video intentionally splattered blood and guts all over everyone who agreed, just to make the right impression on them.

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chloe732 replied on Tue, Oct 5 2010 10:00 PM

I think the video makers were inspired by the Khmer Rouge.  This is an interesting article, especially how the Khmer Rouge got its start, their objective, and their tactics.  It will turn your stomach as much as the video did, except this really happened.

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Probably a coincidence of great ill minds thinking alike.

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I wonder how many people die every year due to the economic policies inspired by environmental activists.

This is why this video had no shock value to me. They're already advocating the killing of people through promoting poor economic policy. It's often that I hear them say "there are too many people in the world!" ...I'm pretty sure that's just another way for them to say we have to start killing people. It's about time a video like this came out and started showing their true colors.

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Blown to bits or slow starvation.  Why does one act deserve any more condemnation than the other?

Environmentalist policies require depopulation and radical control over the population.  Just on the subject of food, even the most optimistic projections for "sustainable" food production could only feed around 4 billion people (and that's an estimate from the Green movement).  There are approximately 7 billion people in the world.  What do they do with the extra 3 billion?  In otherwords, just on the food side, every 3 out of 7 people are required to be eliminated in order to fulfill environmentalist objectives.

A logical conclusion is that environmentalists must step up the violence to meet their agenda.  They aren't meeting their goals through starvation, thanks to genetically modified foods that produce greater yields and countries who don't follow their directives.  They've made dire predictions, and lose credibility the longer their "solutions" are put off.

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Peak food is fiction.

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True if we are allowing for technology, but then the environmentalists have pushed for degrading the world's ability to produce food by eliminating such technological advances.  When taken to extremes, the limit on world food production could be reduced even lower than 4 billion.

Norman Borlaug, who I would say was a much more reasonable environmentalist (although attacked by environmentalists), claimed that we are fine if we permit the use of technology to increase yields.  He cautioned, however, that if we try to revert to subsistence farming that billions would starve.  Environmentalists have pushed for just such subsistence farming and outlawing the technology that keeps people fed today.

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