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Nielsio Posted: Wed, Mar 2 2011 3:43 PM

In this thread we post short things that don't require a separate thread.

 

 

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Nielsio replied on Wed, Mar 2 2011 3:50 PM

Anarcho-capitalist t-shirts:

 

  

 

Store links: http://www.vforvoluntary.com/store
(commission for me is set at 0 at Spreadshirt and lowest 10% at Zazzle)

 

Lowest price is $10.40 (both versions) and 10.90 EUR in Europe (white version).

$4.50 delivery in the US at Spreadshirt, and 3 to 4 euros delivery in Europe at Spreadshirt.

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MaikU replied on Wed, Mar 2 2011 4:15 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG9CE55wbtY

Sir Ken Robinson: Do schools kill creativity?

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It's a nice design.....maybe because I'm a minimalist, but I feel there is too much on the shirt. What about taking the two icons off and what surrounds them, and keeping the "You own your life" and the snake. If you wanna keep the anarchy sign, put it somewhere more appropriate.

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Nielsio replied on Wed, Mar 2 2011 9:04 PM

Libertyandlife:

It's a nice design.....maybe because I'm a minimalist, but I feel there is too much on the shirt. What about taking the two icons off and what surrounds them, and keeping the "You own your life" and the snake. If you wanna keep the anarchy sign, put it somewhere more appropriate.

Keep the goal of the shirt in mind. If it is ambiguous what will it accomplish? The goal of the shirt is to give people an idea of what you're about. The way it is now it sends off a much stronger signal than with a minimalist message. People aren't used to seeing both an anarchy symbol and an expression of capitalism at the same time. So this creates an opportunity for someone else to bring up the subject (ask you) and then you can elaborate on things.

It's also important that it looks sort off cool, and showing that you're comfortable wearing it (and it's message).

This is why I believe these elements all need to be in there. So it isn't just a way to signal to others who already agree with you, but to signal proudly to others who may take an interest.

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I mean with those minimal elements, it may spark enough curiosity for a viewer to ASK the person wearing the shirt what it's about. Plus capitalism and anarchy may be too much to take in at once.

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Nielsio replied on Wed, Mar 2 2011 9:16 PM

It's precisely the point to offer them something they can't yet take in.

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Touche.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0A8Qf893cs

 

A russian anarchist artist who tries to make a statement by hugging and kissing Russian police officers.

The song is a anarcho-communist song: Hey, hey daloy politsey (down with the police)

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Nielsio replied on Thu, Mar 3 2011 4:58 AM

That's not an anarchist.

 

Are Violent Rioters Anarchists?

By Per Bylund, as appeared in: Blame Anarchism?

Destruction is a statist measure; it is fundamental to government. So what are the black-clad youngsters so filled with hatred and so prone to destroy? They call themselves anarchists, but they are the embodiment of the statist principle: "do as I say--or else". The masked hordes rioting the streets calling for anarchy want power; they want the power to do as they please, and they want the power to separate action from responsibility. They want the freedom to act--without consequence. They demand respect from others in the sense of fear, obedience and subjection rather than appreciation and admiration; they want to be the state and control its powers.

They are indeed the opposite of any conceivable part of the anarchist tradition, but use the label to place responsibility of their deeds on others. They blame anarchism for their actions, while demanding the powers of the state to mold society into their view of utopia. The riots are not a call for freedom; it is a call for another kind of government. Anarchism, on the other hand, is the absence of government.

http://www.vforvoluntary.com/wiki/AreViolentRiotersAnarchists

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Sorry Nielso, anarchism is not the absence of government.

http://anarchism.pageabode.com/anarcho/anarchism-big-society

Anarchists say so! :P

Suffice to say, anarchism has never been purely anti-state and to suggest otherwise is to impoverish it. As can be seen from Kropotkin’s 1896 text, we recognise that free association cannot exist as long as capitalism does.

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So we're more anarchist then the "true" anarchists?

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Or rather less, because we support capitalism!

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Can we call them the conservative or orthodox anarchists (preferably conservative because the connotation and association with conservatives will piss them off)?

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Anarchists who smash stuff are always anarcho-communists. All political violence originates from the left. And of course anrcho-communism is an oxymoron. The only form of anarchism is when the entities that control scarce objects are persons. When you reject private property you necessarily have to have a state. Just that they have shrunk their state to where persons can directly influence it, then they assume that everybody will happily get along and participate in the decision making process, that's how they can pretend that their miniature states would not be states. But they would be local monopolies on force and the ownership of the means of production. Although the commies kind of came up with the term anarchist first, so I think they should be allowed to keep it. As such anarchism (statelessness and absence of property rights) simply can't exist in reality.

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Honestly, I think the words "anarchy" and "anarchism" are far beyond saving at this point and even the words "capitalism" and "libertarianism" I find highly problematic in conversation with most people. There are certain pre-conceived notions of what those things mean that are nigh impossible to root out of peoples' heads.

I've been trying to use terms like "emergent society" or "polycentric law". It seems to slow people down in throwing up mental barriers when you use unfamiliar phrases rather than ones they think they understand and have already rejected.

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Nielsio replied on Thu, Mar 3 2011 4:08 PM

You may have seen this, but I hadn't yet and it was great.

 

Matt Ridley: When ideas have sex

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Nielsio replied on Fri, Mar 4 2011 12:15 PM

The Proper Role of Government (Adam Smith Institute, UK)

 

Pretty nice lecture. (the guy is an-cap leaning)

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Interesting video about economic growth since the industrial revolution:

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Nielsio replied on Fri, Mar 4 2011 11:59 PM

Intellectual Freedom and Learning versus Patent and Copyright (by Stephan Kinsella)

 

Best explanation against intellectual property I've seen so far.

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Honestly, I think the words "anarchy" and "anarchism" are far beyond saving at this point and even the words "capitalism" and "libertarianism" I find highly problematic in conversation with most people. There are certain pre-conceived notions of what those things mean that are nigh impossible to root out of peoples' heads.

I've been trying to use terms like "emergent society" or "polycentric law". It seems to slow people down in throwing up mental barriers when you use unfamiliar phrases rather than ones they think they understand and have already rejected.

I think we're always going to face hostility when arguing for the abolition of the state and the creation of a competitive system of law. It'll never be easy. Whether you use the word anarchy or not, people believe that absent the state there is only chaos. Rather than mask ourselves, let's embarce it so we can adress their prejucides head on.

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Nielsio:
Napolitano comes out in favor of anarchy:

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4568694/the-plain-truth-on-parasitic-government/

 

Oh snap!

Awwwww! At first I thought you meant Janet Napolitano!

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Anarchy being discussed on state controlled tv?

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Conza88 replied on Sat, Mar 5 2011 9:32 PM

"Napolitano comes out in favor of anarchy"

I think Ron Paul will openly come out in favour of voluntarism, anarcho-capitalism when he retires. His last parting speech. Would anyone like to make any bets? ;)

Ron Paul is for self-government when compared to the Constitution. He's an anarcho-capitalist. Proof.
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Nielsio replied on Sat, Mar 5 2011 9:44 PM

Upped by Conza.

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Conza88 replied on Sat, Mar 5 2011 10:27 PM

"Upped by Conza."

Thanks mate. :)

I can keep listening to this epic rant over and over again.. haha.

Ron Paul is for self-government when compared to the Constitution. He's an anarcho-capitalist. Proof.
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Oh my god. Anarchy on Fox News...

AW YEEE! There is hope for humankind!    =D

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B-man replied on Sun, Mar 6 2011 8:07 PM

 

Jacob Geiger, contributor at PolitiFact debates Peter Schiff regarding his "Truth-O-Meter" piece on Fed Policy and parabolic commodity price increases. 
 
 
 
Truth-O-Meter piece being debated: http://politifact.com/virginia/statements/2011/feb/04/jamie-radtke/jamie-radtke-says-federal-reserve-driving-commodit/
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Nielsio replied on Sun, Mar 6 2011 9:50 PM

The Errors Of Classical Liberalism And The Idea Of A Private Law Society (by Hans-Hermann Hoppe)

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http://www.youtube.com/embed/EhdPrA0b1UM

How do I embed a vid? crying

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Eric080 replied on Tue, Mar 8 2011 3:05 AM

I hope Paul does it.  As I said in another post, if he runs and starts getting more attention (I think his vote count will skyrocket with the amount of people sick of spending), some left-wing outlets will do some digging and figure out his connections to the Austrian School, and then stumble upon his association with Lew Rockwell and Murray Rothbard.  These guys will be turned into the Reverend Wrights of the Paul campaign, but I bet many more people will join the anarcho-libertarian movement and we'll be better off for it.

 

But Paul is inching ever close to do just that.  With his "opt-out" proposal, some people are calling him nuts, but he's starting to show his true stripes wink

"And it may be said with strict accuracy, that the taste a man may show for absolute government bears an exact ratio to the contempt he may profess for his countrymen." - de Tocqueville
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Nielsio replied on Tue, Mar 8 2011 8:41 AM

nuksukow:

Use the following code, and use a regular youtube url:

[ view : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhdPrA0b1UM : 640 : 385 ]

If you remove the spaces it will work:

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Nielsio replied on Tue, Mar 8 2011 8:42 AM

The Intellectual Property Quagmire (by Stephan Kinsella)

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Seeing Block's reaction at 51:55 is pricelss, bonus for facepalm!

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cporter replied on Tue, Mar 8 2011 2:21 PM

When questioning that kid, he should have pointed out more directly that the opposition to his argument is suffering from the delusion that they actually get to choose between a $3.00 an hour job and a $10.00 an hour job instead of a $3.00 an hour job and a $0.00 an hour job.

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Sieben replied on Tue, Mar 8 2011 2:45 PM

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