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Rothbard's, Von Mises', or Block's view on Israel?

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Al_Gore the Idiot posted on Thu, May 12 2011 1:25 PM

I'm curious as to what are Rothbard's, Von Mises', or Block's view on Israel? Do they give a straight
answer or do they tiptoe around the subject?

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I don't know about Mises, since he wasn't an anarchist, but Block and Rothbard are ancaps, so I don't know why their opinions regarding Israel would be different than their opinions regarding any other state.

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What Mises said was:

The Zionists want to create an independent state composed of

those professing the]ewish religion. For them the]ews are a people

and a nation. We are not concerned here with whether the historical

arguments brought forward for the justification of these

claims are correct or not, or whether the plan is politically sound

or unsound. But it is a fact that the Jews speak many different

languages; from the viewpoint of the principle of nationality the

aspirations of Zionism are no less irregular than those of the Irish.

Therefore the Zionists try to induce the Jews to speak and write

Hebrew. These plans are paradoxical in the face of the fact that in

the days of Christ the inhabitants of Palestine did not speak He-

• Act IV, scene in the lunatic asylum.

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brew; their native tongue was Aramaic. Hebrew was the language

of the religious literature only. It was not understood by the people.

The second language generally known was Greek.:

• Kenyon, "The Bible as Christ Knew It," The History of Christianity in the Light

of Modern Knowledge (London, 1929), p. 172. Some Zionists advocated Yiddish as the

national language; but they did not succeed in establishing it. Yiddish is a German

dialect with some words borrowed from Hebrew and more from the Slavonic languages.

It is the dialect spoken by the Jews of German origin in northeastern Europe.

The newspapers in Hebrew type printed and distributed in America are not written

in Hebrew but in Yiddish.

He does say some of the Zionist attempts in language were paradoxical and the context of this passage was in a section that dealt with nationalist myths and legends used to create a false chauvinist history of one's own nation. Later he speaks of how much of Germany is Slavonic, and how few Germans have ever been "pure Germans". Earlier in the book, he had also spoken of Czech fabrications of manuscripts to show that Czechs had an advanced civilization in antiquity.

All in all, he speaks of the arbitrary nature of well meaning nationalist movements.

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Yes, Rothbard, Mises, and Block are notorious such tip-toers, aren't they!  On Rothbard's view on Israel, see the following 1982 issue of The Libertarian Forum:

http://mises.org/journals/lf/1982/1982_07.pdf

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Thanks for that PDF. Rothbard certainly was no fan of Israel's actions. Funny that he speculated that Israel would eventually take both Beirut and Damascus. That was 29 years ago. Time will tell.

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Merlin replied on Fri, May 13 2011 1:47 PM

 

I don’t know about Beirut and Damascus, but I have reason to believe that the Israeli leaders are seeking Baalbek (Lebanon) and the Sinai. 

The Regression theorem is a memetic equivalent of the Theory of Evolution. To say that the former precludes the free emergence of fiat currencies makes no more sense that to hold that the latter precludes the natural emergence of multicellular organisms.
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Wasn't Sinai returned in exchange for Egypt's recognition of the Israeli state? They do have some sort of formal agreement with each other. 

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Merlin replied on Fri, May 13 2011 2:22 PM

 

Sure, but I suspect they’ve waiting for the right time to get it back. It’s a religious thing.  

The Regression theorem is a memetic equivalent of the Theory of Evolution. To say that the former precludes the free emergence of fiat currencies makes no more sense that to hold that the latter precludes the natural emergence of multicellular organisms.
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