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RothbardsDisciple Posted: Sat, Nov 5 2011 6:26 PM

 

An Enemy of the State: The Life of Murray N. Rothbard - Justin Raimondo; Hardcover

$27.71

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$13.27 ( 32%)

 

Ethics of Liberty - Murray N. Rothbard; Hardcover

Condition: Used - Acceptable

$18.47

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$6.53 ( 26%)

 

The Not So Wild, Wild West: Property Rights on the Frontier (Stanford Economics and Finance) - Terry L. Anderson; Hardcover

$19.11

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For a New Liberty - Murray N. Rothbard; Hardcover

$27.00

 

Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A. Heinlein; Hardcover

Condition: Used - Very Good

$11.49

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Hello everyone, I am buying some books today. ^Does anyone have anything to add, subtract, or change about the above list of books? Of course the above list reflects that I am a Rothbard scholar, but I also want to read some other authors, as you can see from those others I included. Here are some works that didn't make the cut, by the way, simply because I do not want to spend more than about $150ish:

Lincoln Unmasked: What You're Not Supposed to Know About Dishonest Abe - Thomas DiLorenzo; Hardcover

$10.39

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$12.56 ( 55%)

Economic Controversies - Murray N. Rothbard; Hardcover

$25.00

Human Action: A Treatise on Economics - Ludwig von Mises; Hardcover

$52.25

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$19.75 ( 27%)

Panic of 1819 Reactions and Policies - Murray N. Rothbard; Hardcover

$20.00

America's Great Depression - Murray N. Rothbard; Hardcover

$19.00

Stranger In A Strange Land (Turtleback School & Library Binding Edition) - Robert A. Heinlein; School & Library Binding

$13.80

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$4.60 ( 25%)

Also, I am an Amazon guy, but if you find cheaper versions of these, say, at the Mises store, please let me know!

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Oh, and one more thing: I tend to be a hardcover kind of person, particularly with regards to my Rothbard collection.

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Also, I am an Amazon guy, but if you find cheaper versions of these, say, at the Mises store, please let me know!

...did you actually check the Mises store?  Just a quick glance shows at least 3 titles at equal or lower price.

 

But if you do end up using Amazon, at least go through GoodShop.com and name the Mises Institute as your chosen cause.  (You don't even have to sign up for an account, although it's useful if you'd like to keep track of how much money you've helped raise.)

 

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...did you actually check the Mises store?

Haha, you caught me. The search function was not working, so it was a pain in the butt to look for the books I might want to purchase here.

But if you do end up using Amazon, at least go through GoodShop.com and name the Mises Institute as your chosen cause.

I'll definitely consider that. How do I name the Mises Institute as my cause?

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 Donn't know what you're looking for but here are some big guns

1st and foremost

Mises: Human Action

 

Menger: Principles of Economics

 

Next down in no good order:

 

Mises: Socialism, Theory of Money ad Credit/ Theory and History/ Liberalism

 

Hayek: Prices and Production

 

Schumpeter: Capitalism Socialism Democracy/ Imperialism

 

Lachmann: Capital and It's Structure/ The Legacy of Max Weber

 

Anthonry de Jasay: Justice and It's Surroundings, The State

 

Max Weber: The Protestant Ethic/ Politics as Vocation

 

Hope that helps

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"When A Man Dies A World Goes Out of Existence"  - GLS Shackle

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Haha, you caught me. The search function was not working, so it was a pain in the butt to look for the books I might want to purchase here.

Should be working now.

 

But if you do end up using Amazon, at least go through GoodShop.com and name the Mises Institute as your chosen cause.

I'll definitely consider that. How do I name the Mises Institute as my cause?

Consider it?  Do it, bro.  It's no different from just ordering normally, you just click through to Amazon from the Goodshop site.  It's self explanatory...just go to the site and there's a huge banner that tells you to enter your favorite charity.  Just type in "mises".  It'll take you to the register page so you can create an account, but there's a link at the top right so you can continue without registering if you want.  Then just scroll down to the Amazon logo and click there.

 

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Rothbard is a great thinker (perhaps one of the greatest in the Libertarian tradition), but I think you might benefit from and enjoy your reading to a greater extent if you have a lager variety of authors mixed in. I tend to think comparing similar (but different) opinions allows one the opportunity to connect ideas, evaluate more critically, and basically keep interest in the subjects at hand.

David Friedman, (as already mentioned) Anthony de Jasay, Milton Friedman, Thomas Woods (great for policy debates, whatever they're worth), and Hans Hermann Hoppe are some good alternatives.

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Rothbard is a great thinker (perhaps one of the greatest in the Libertarian tradition), but I think you might benefit from and enjoy your reading to a greater extent if you have a lager variety of authors mixed in.

I agree. What books of his on my list are least imperative, and thus best to replace? (For example, maybe remove FaNL and the biography?) Thanks for the help.

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IMO: Great deppresion, Econ Thought, and Panic of 1819 are the MOST imperative on your list....assuming you read MES

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Principles of Economics - Carl Menger; Paperback

$10.00

 

Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis - Ludwig von Mises; Hardcover

$19.00

 

An Enemy of the State: The Life of Murray N. Rothbard - Justin Raimondo; Hardcover

$27.71

You save:
$13.27 ( 32%)

 

Ethics of Liberty - Murray N. Rothbard; Hardcover

Condition: Used - Acceptable

$18.47

You save:
$6.53 ( 26%)

 

The Not So Wild, Wild West: Property Rights on the Frontier (Stanford Economics and Finance) - Terry L. Anderson; Hardcover

$19.11

You save:
$9.84 ( 34%)

 

Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A. Heinlein; Hardcover

Condition: Used - Very Good

$11.49

You save:
$13.46 ( 54%)

 

Thanks so much for the help everyone! I decided to vary things a bit, rather than too much of my favourite author. Here were my ultimate choices; I might purchase some more books in a while, and if I do, I shall bump this thread.

Oh, and JJ, I ordered Menger from the Mises Institute on Amazon. So that should be $13 + whatever GoodShop contributes from my purchase. =)

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IMO: Great deppresion, Econ Thought, and Panic of 1819 are the MOST imperative on your list....assuming you read MES

Hehe...I've read 450 pages in MES, but then stopped to restart and take notes. I know, I know, I am a lazy person.

Next time I get a chance I'll order some of those, before I buy even FaNL.

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Hmm.. I like the list :) But.. I'm a big fan of For a New Liberty.

To each his own :P

If you're ever interested in works specifically on An-cap, Anarchy and the Law is a great collection of essays (including mutlible by Rothbard himself, if I recall correctly) that has a great variety of authors as well as topics.

Have fun reading!

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Bert replied on Sun, Nov 6 2011 12:14 PM

The Law by Bastiat.

I had always been impressed by the fact that there are a surprising number of individuals who never use their minds if they can avoid it, and an equal number who do use their minds, but in an amazingly stupid way. - Carl Jung, Man and His Symbols
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Does anybody know why shipping from the Mises store is so expensive. I realise that they have to send the books I order across the Atlantic, but Amazon does it for about €5, whereas the Mises store does it for €45 for a single book. It's a shame because most of their books aren't sold first hand anywhere else; but €45 for shipping alone.

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Does anybody know why shipping from the Mises store is so expensive. I realise that they have to send the books I order across the Atlantic, but Amazon does it for about €5, whereas the Mises store does it for €45 for a single book. It's a shame because most of their books aren't sold first hand anywhere else; but €45 for shipping alone.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that the Mises Institute doesn't have shipping centers in Europe like Amazon does...which means they actually are shipping across the Atlantic.  (You didn't really think you'd get a personal intercontinental shipment for €5 did you?)

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Well I have gotten personal intercontinental shipments for approx. €5 before. Some shipments might havve been as high as €8, but that's still a hell of alot cheaper than €45.

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You got a package of books mailed directly to you from the United States to Europe for €5?  Good god man, who was the courier?

 

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Can't remember. I just rembering buying a second hand book on industrial organisation for college for €10 in total. I think the book itself cost just over €6. The book did arrive nearly two weeks late though.

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Chyd3nius replied on Mon, Nov 7 2011 10:54 AM

When I ordered books from Mises Institute to the Europe, shipping costs were about 60 €.

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Regarding the Heinlien on your list, Stranger in a Strange Land is a classic, but I've always been kind of "meh" on his books.  I was, at one point, enamored with Starship Troopers because of the limited voting, but since then I've changed my views on that *just* a tad, it's fallen out of my favor.  Stranger in a Strange Land ends up more in proto-hippie stuff.

A much better read, that will get you thinking, is Neuromancer by William Gibson and the subsequent books in the Sprawl Trilogy.  Not an inherently libertarian one, but it's a good story about people working on the edges of society.

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Marko replied on Mon, Nov 7 2011 4:05 PM

I guess bookstores which ship greater volume can negotiate better deals? I got a book recently from a seller called Plum Circle in Pennsylvania and the shipping was $12.49, but they claim to have sold 0.5 million books to date.

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John James:
You didn't really think you'd get a personal intercontinental shipment for €5 did you?
Vladimir Ulyanov:
Well I have gotten personal intercontinental shipments for approx. €5 before.
John James:
You got a package of books mailed directly to you from the United States to Europe for €5?  Good god man, who was the courier?
Vladimir Ulyanov:
Can't remember. I just rembering buying a second hand book on industrial organisation for college for €10 in total. I think the book itself cost just over €6. The book did arrive nearly two weeks late though.

Seriously?

 

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Marko replied on Mon, Nov 7 2011 4:57 PM

Hmmh, was it maybe BetterWorldBooks you ordered it from?

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Jetrpg replied on Mon, Nov 7 2011 5:07 PM

I have to recommend: An unincorporated man

http://www.amazon.com/Unincorporated-Man-Sci-Essential-Books/dp/B0030EG1BA/

Its not like perfect in its ideology, this is its appeal. I refuse to read the follow-up book, because this book leave off with reader thinking about the nature of government, individual freedom, and corporations.

You can see many ideas from a cyberpunk, biological modification of humans, economical premise of Hayek, to a utopian dystopian or dystopian utopia (and i don't think think readers can make the judgment of which of these two it is).

Its overfilled with ideas, too much maybe. The writers could sit down and write entire books about segments of history revealed in this books setting.

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Regarding the Heinlien on your list...

Oh, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is a book of Libertarian revolution. One of the characters is a philosophical anarchist. Should be fun!

And thanks for the suggestion!

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Seriously.

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  • Oh, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is a book of Libertarian revolution. One of the characters is a philosophical anarchist. Should be fun! And thanks for the suggestion!

Yeah, that one is particularly libertarian.  But Heinlien wasn't consistantly libertarian.  I think Jeff Riggenbaugh wrote some good breakdown about the author and his odd inconsitency.  I think he (or someone else) made the funny suggestion that Heinlien adopted the ideology and ideas of whoever he was married to/sleeping with at the time. :-P

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By God, does my used copy of Ethics of Liberty have Rothbard's signature in it!? The seller only said "name written in pen on inside cover," not that the book contained the signature of the author himself. Of course, I could always be wrong about this. Here is the picture of my (alleged) signature:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/rothbardsignature.jpg/

^Sorry if the above is blurred, for I took it on my phone. Here is a picture on the web of Rothbard's confirmed signature:

http://mises.org/Community/media/p/230544.aspx

The chief differences appear to be with the "M" (it's not connected to the "u" in my picture). But no one writes their signature the exact same way twice, so there is hope that mine is legitimate, particularly seeing that the mises signature appears to be a facsimile. Then again, someone could have just scrawled Rothbard's name in cursive inside my book, so...

What do you all think? I contacted my seller about all this, and I will post if he replies.

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Chyd3nius replied on Wed, Nov 23 2011 6:58 PM

Well what would you think? We're jealous.

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That would be hilarious

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The seller says:

We can't be sure, since this book was acquired by us used; but usually names in cursive on the title page are autographs.
Thanks again for your order.

Sounds hopeful!

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Hello everyone, I contacted Steven Horwitz about this, and he writes:

Hi folks.

Although he did not include his middle initial, I can absolutely verify that the signature you attached matches those in my signed copies of two of his books. You have the real deal there.

SH

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That is fricken crazy.

 

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Hm...Or we could all live in a mises forums commune and "share"? Sounds more reasonable xD

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Dean14 replied on Thu, Nov 24 2011 7:41 PM

Wow that's lucky!

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