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mickanomics posted on Sat, Apr 7 2012 10:39 AM

I have just written a short piece on momentum trading on my blog. I'd be interested in your comments.

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I think you are describing a branch of the topic known as speculation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculation

If that is the case, then it explains why it is not seriously studied.

To explain what I mean, assume many people [say 75% of humanity] decided whether or not to buy stocks or houses by reading tea leaves or rolling dice. Would tea leaves then become a topic for serious economic research?

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"Would tea leaves then become a topic for serious economic research?". In a way yes. Economics is the study of the aggregate behaviour of the entirity of economic agents. You can't avoid taking into account the actions of significant sized groups just because you disaprove of what they are doing.

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Momentum trading is of interest to traders, not economists. If you've found a pattern, by all means, exploit it and become rich. Rising prices do, indeed, discourage purchases - this is as true in speculative markets as it is in any market. You've never heard the term "overbought"? If it were not the case that rising prices discourage purchases (and can even encourage purchases), I would think that the stock price of Google would be close to $1M/share by now.

While people do, in fact, buy high and sell low, this is an unprofitable strategy. Those who engage in such strategies (whether based on momentum trading theories or otherwise) are dispossessed of their trading funds by those who follow the only profitable strategy of buying low and selling high.

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"Rising prices do, indeed, discourage purchases" - really? Where were you in 2007? People were in a frenzy of house purchasing precisely because prices were rising so consistantly.

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"Rising prices do, indeed, discourage purchases" - really? Where were you in 2007? People were in a frenzy of house purchasing precisely because prices were rising so consistantly.

So then buy a house and become rich, my friend. After all, home prices must be rising faster than ever today.

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"So then buy a house and become rich, my friend." - You have missed my point entirely. I am not advocating momentum trading, merely pointing out that a lot of it goes on and therefore its consequences need to be considered by economists.

 

 

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a lot of it goes on

I think something like 90+% of all new businesses fail within 3 years. So yeah, lots of unprofitable ventures go on. Buying high and selling low on the stock market is just one of innumerable examples of unprofitable business strategies. Identifying common mistakes that lead to the collapse of unprofitable business ventures is certainly a valuable area of study.

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mickanomics:

[...] actions of significant sized groups[...]

 

This must be a euphemism because the each member of the group acts, not literately the group. But yeah, the members could act in unison.

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
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mickanomics:

"Rising prices do, indeed, discourage purchases" - really? Where were you in 2007? People were in a frenzy of house purchasing precisely because prices were rising so consistantly.

 

Right. And they lost money and then stopped buying houses because they had no more money because they used an unprofitable strategy. But there were also people who were discouraged from buying houses; for example, Peter Schiff, Marc Faber and Jim Rogers.

This is why it is important to remember that an individual acts, not a group. Within a group of people, there can be people who are encourage as well as people who are discouraged; however, to try to aggregate their actions can lead to wrong conclusions.

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
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Clayton:
I think something like 90+% of all new businesses fail within 3 years. [...]

What does this statistic mean? Are these business that go bankrupt, or shut down by the government, or "temporary/seasonal" business, or businesses that have pivoted?

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
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@Muffinburg: I just take it to mean that people have lots of dumb business ideas to produce things that consumers aren't actually demanding.

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