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John James Posted: Fri, Jun 1 2012 12:01 AM

In this thread we post short things that don't require a seperate thread.

 

Previous low content threads:

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April 2012
http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/28697.aspx

March 2012
http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/28350.aspx

February 2012
http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/27995.aspx

January 2012
http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/27526.aspx

December 2011
http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/27178.aspx

November 2011
http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/26855.aspx

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http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/26422.aspx

September 2011
http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/26084.aspx

August 2011
http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/25783.aspx

 

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http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/25323.aspx

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http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/24987.aspx

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http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/24393.aspx

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http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/23834.aspx

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http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/23166.aspx

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http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/22523.aspx

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http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/21877.aspx

December 2010
http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/21375.aspx

November 2010
http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/20722.aspx

October 2010
http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/20457.aspx

 

A pretty useful Gary Johnson ad.  I guess you can really start to spread it around after August 27...

 

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A nice 60 second spot for the EconFree site.

I definitely recommend checking out their channel

 

 

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I'm starting to like this guy more and more.

Be sure to check out The War on Kids

Peter Thiel: Education Can Be Disrupted
Churchill Club 14th annual top 1
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Non-funnyman Conan O'Brien stops trying to be funny, and surprising ends up sounding quite articulate:

The 'Ron Burgundy' Strategy Drives Viewers

 

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Clayton replied on Fri, Jun 1 2012 11:53 PM

DHS watch-word list.

Someone needs to build a bot that just generates random strings of text filled with these key words so people can put them as sig lines, cloud tags, dummy blog entries, even phantom html pages. Let's choke the bastards on their own bull shit. DDoS attack on "total awareness".

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Clayton:
DHS watch-word list.

Someone needs to build a bot that just generates random strings of text filled with these key words so people can put them as sig lines, cloud tags, dummy blog entries, even phantom html pages. Let's choke the bastards on their own bull shit. DDoS attack on "total awareness".

Great minds.

 

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Stephen Colbert can be pretty good sometimes:

Two Birds with One Drone

 

 

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Just got my books in the mail today: 

The Theory of Money and Credit 

Socialism 

America's Great Depression

Democracy: The God that Failed

 

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U.S. savings rate drops to four-year low in April: Rate of 3.4% poses questions about consumers’ pace of spending

 


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Free Falling: Man Plans Record-Breaking 120,000-Foot Jump

From the article:

According to National Public Radio, Austrian pilot and skydiver Felix Baumgartner plans to jump from a staggering height of 23 miles – which equals out to just over 121,000 feet.

Of course!

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@TOG:

Just out of curiosity...what determined which hyperlink you used for each book?

 

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Greg replied on Sat, Jun 2 2012 4:41 PM

Hope that worked - my first youtube post I used the others here as a template... Holy crap thank you JJ for the EconFree channel recommendation love this stuff!

By far the most interesting thing to me about economics is the role of prices in organizing how recourses are allocated within an economy. Mind blowing realization that high prices can actually be a good thing during a crisis, bringing much-needed recourses where they are needed most.

Price-control theory has implications on minimum wage, crisis management, and rent-control. Every layman I have ever come across thinks these are are some of the most important functions of government - it must be understood that these are probably the most destructive functions of government. (Besides war.) 

 

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Greg:
Holy crap thank you JJ for the EconFree channel recommendation love this stuff!

You may be interested in:

Guides and Knowledge for your Intellectual Journey

(featured in The Ultimate Beginner meta-thread)

 

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A conversation you and I had a while back where you recommended that I link to Mises Wiki pages for the sake of providing, not only a link to the resource page where the book is offered from mises.org for free (if applicable) but also supplementary sources and summaries of the work in question.

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Oh interesting...I didn't realize they all ended up at the wiki.  I didn't look closely at the URLs.  I just noticed only one of them is a direct link...the others are google links.  I thought they were links to google sales or books listings.  I thought it was kind of weird that you would link one to the Mises Wiki and the rest to google pages, when all of those books are on the wiki.

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To be honest, I paused in making that post somewhat expecting someone to point out that I copied and pasted the URLs from Google. After that, I continued just to see what would happen. John James ... laugh

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Greg replied on Sat, Jun 2 2012 5:51 PM

 

John James:
You may be interested in...

OH. MY. GOD.

LOL at ThatOldGuy's post, vomiting the supermassive awesome overload.

 

 

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lololololololololololololol

 

 

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Nielsio replied on Sun, Jun 3 2012 12:39 PM

Libertarianism Is Not 'No Gun In The Room' | VforVoluntaryTV

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Clayton replied on Sun, Jun 3 2012 1:58 PM

+1 Nielsio!!!

I think some libertarians actually are for "putting down the guns" on an idealistic optimism regarding the perfectibility of human nature (i.e. that it is possible to have property in an absolutely pacifistic society). I think Roderick Long is very close to this view.

And you're 100% correct that it's not enough to say "I'm against aggression" because people define aggression in various ways. "Taxation isn't aggression, it's just the price of living in a civilized country. If you don't want to be 'aggressed' against, move to Somalia and see how much better you like it there." It doesn't matter whether you're defining aggression as "initiation of violence", the real question is what are the legitimate uses of violence. Most people accept initiation of violence as legitimate in many scenarios besides protection of property. Just citing the NAP to them does not constitute a substantial challenge to their point-of-view and actually comes across as dogmatic.

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I think the best way to get to some people is to talk about the golden rule and social cooperation.  Most everyone is aware of the golden rule, but they are not really aware of the NAP.  Point out that the vast majority of people do not even use violence (offensive or otherwise) on any given day, and that almost everyone engages purely in voluntary and social cooperation.  Then talk about certain actions that if we, the regular people, were to engage in, we would be committing crimes, but if agents of the state do it, it's considered okay.  Don't bring up taxation yet.  The first actions to bring up should be obvious cases of police brutality or other cases of hypocrasy among lawmakers.  Start with actions that are just obviously wrong to anyone.  Over time, you work towards actions that are less obvious, but still seen as "reasonably" bad by most people.  Such actions might be police breaking into an innocent man's house and arresting him, only to apologize later.  Start talking about strict unlimited liability for police.  That if you or I were to break down a man's door and arrest him and find out later we were wrong, we would be imprisoned for trespass, breaking a man's door down, false imprisonment, kidnapping, assault, etc.

Once you get someone started on the path of eliminating double standards that are obviously bad, then even if they never make the leap to anarchy, you still have someone fighting to eliminate some double standards.

Taxation should be one of the last things to bring up.  It's not obviously wrong the same way murder is obviously wrong.  Plus, in theory (and in practice for certain things), taxation is supposed to pay for services and whatnot.  So most people will shut their mind down.  

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Does anyone know of a good writeup or video on the absurdity of the "lesser of two evils" nonsense?

 

Propaganda technique: Lesser Of Two Evils

 

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Clayton replied on Sun, Jun 3 2012 5:20 PM

@JJ: Wow, I think that could be really effective in illustrating the point!

I think this actually occurs on a grander scale than just Democrats versus Republicans. For example, it is my view that al-Shabaab in Somalia is a creature of CIA. It is a breakaway group of hardline Islamicists (not all of them are actually Somalis). The idea is to inflict al-Shabaab on the country and then allow the UN to "swoop in" with its "real government" that will deliver the Somalis from the dreaded hardline Islamicism.

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Schooling Amazing Atheist on States Rights

 

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Does the Fed have any bullets left?

http://buzz.money.cnn.com/2012/06/01/does-the-fed-have-any-bullets-left/?google_editors_picks=true

lol at the pic 

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Anenome replied on Mon, Jun 4 2012 3:02 AM
 
 

The contradictions inherent in the system must inevitably come to one helluva crash, at the worst possible moment. The 2008 crash was just the beginning.

These sorts of things will be inevitable as long as politicians are allowed to monkey with economic policy, creating artificial distortions in markets and price structures that eventually become untenable and result in far worse consequences than the policies were designed to avoid in the first place.

And always with good intentions. The 2008 housing crash was caused by the idea that 'every American should be able to own their own home.' It sounded good, sounded compassionate. It was stupid.

We need, among other limits, a government constitutionally limited with a separation of economy and state.

Hundreds of years ago, via the experience of our ancestors in bloody Europe, we learned why a separation of church and state was necessary. Now we need to learn this new lesson. No better time than now. No better people than we.

 
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Bogart replied on Mon, Jun 4 2012 5:37 PM

The truely ironic part of this dumb article could be that the unemployment rate could and is rising despite the number of people leaving unemployment roles and falling into the "Grey" economy.

 

There is one positive point, that when the crash of the size that Peter Schiff and others are predicting, the USA will desperately need the services of "Grey" an "Black" markets to keep the country going.

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Bogart replied on Mon, Jun 4 2012 8:52 PM

Where is their evidence that the Fed had any "Bullets" to begin with.  The Fed does not create wealth.  It simply creates money to buy current debts.  In essence it moves wealth to those who the Fed pays with money created from thin air to those who lose wealth because their money is worth less.  Now the the Austrian Economists have for 3 generations pointed out that money and or credit expansion does not create long run wealth but mearly sets in motion the business cycle.  And the worst part is that as more and more money gets created to create the appearance of new wealth the bigger the crash.

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I think this headline is hilarious:

Spain says markets shutting it out, seeks EU help for banks

Translation: "People aren't lending to us anymore, so we need to take money from them anyways!"

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Obama says he’ll portray Romney as extreme libertarian

President Barack Obama is previewing his next strategy in the 2012 campaign — an audacious effort to paint former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and the majority GOP as radical libertarians that have abandoned mainstream American politics.

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ThatOldGuy, I daresay that that won't be Obama's strategy to be elected over Mitt Romney as it will be to try to break the liberty movement's momentum.

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Oh you daresay do you? (this is meant in jest) 

But seriously, couldn't such statements -once the media get a hold of them- be rejected by Romney supporters thus hampering the liberty movement? (i.e. "Romney's not a libertarian... he might want to scale back government [yeah right], but he's not so naive as to be a libertarian"). Portraying him as being associated with the liberty movement is clearly meant as an attack on his thought process, credibility, image, or platform. 

I don't see this "strategy" and your opinion to be at odds with each other.

Maybe Obama won't actually use this strategy but this could hamper the movement. It could make people (perhaps those unfamiliar with the Austrian School or anarchocapitalism) feel more uncomfortable in admitting their libertarian perspective to their peers if this story is circulating. Maybe they could be pressured to gravitate toward certain political views as a result. Paul's campaign -the results of the convention notwithstanding- has given an enormous gift to the movement by making relatively obscure political discussions not only relevent but intriguing (would thousands of college kids pick up their buddies, hop-in-the-van-style, to go hear a speech delivered by a 76 year old OB/GYN talk about monetary policy with out Ron Paul? Who knows- but he's done it). I doubt that this single strategy could "undo" all that Paul has done, but it can hamper the advance of the movement.

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‘Mr. Trololo,’ Russian singer who found unlikely Internet fame, dead at 77

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