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ThatOldGuy replied on Wed, Aug 22 2012 10:06 PM

(CNN) Agencies warn of possible anarchist activity at conventions

Law enforcement officials are concerned about possible violence by anarchist extremists at the upcoming Republican and Democratic national conventions, according to an intelligence bulletin prepared by the FBI and Department of Homeland Security.

If I had a cake and ate it, it can be concluded that I do not have it anymore. HHH

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Clayton replied on Thu, Aug 23 2012 12:04 AM

Law enforcement officials are concerned about possible violence by anarchist extremists at the upcoming Republican and Democratic national conventions, according to an intelligence bulletin prepared by the FBI and Department of Homeland Security.

Yes, because "well-organized anarchists" is not an oxymoron and well-organized anarchist groups are never the work of the intelligence service's agents provocateur.

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Wheylous- I read keynsians the same as you.

“Since people are concerned that ‘X’ will not be provided, ‘X’ will naturally be provided by those who are concerned by its absence."
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gotlucky replied on Thu, Aug 23 2012 9:00 AM

You guys ready for some more laughs?

 

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bloomj31 replied on Thu, Aug 23 2012 9:05 AM

"The once-dignified portrait now resembles a crayon sketch of a very hairy monkey in an ill-fitting tunic, he says."

LOL

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gotlucky replied on Thu, Aug 23 2012 9:12 AM

Yipee! We have 16, 358 29,061 bots guests on the forum!

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Wheylous replied on Thu, Aug 23 2012 11:31 AM

Got lucky - I posted it first! See a few posts above. Silly wabbit.

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gotlucky replied on Thu, Aug 23 2012 11:40 AM

Wheylous - Mine got a lol. cool

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Wheylous replied on Thu, Aug 23 2012 11:53 AM

I know...angry

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Clayton replied on Thu, Aug 23 2012 8:09 PM

Some more detail.

Social technology is one of the foundation-stones of a free society. Understanding how to cooperate in an effective manner is a pre-requisite to any advanced level of division-of-labor.

1915 Edition of Robert's Rules of Order.

National Association of Parliamentarians.

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DanielMuff replied on Fri, Aug 24 2012 11:43 AM

On the Empire State Building shooting, from the Twitter: https://twitter.com/nytmetro/status/239022320683974656

Math: Johnson’s gun holds 8 bullets, used 3 on manager, leaves 5. But 9 bystanders shot.

 So, apparently, the cops didn't shoot innocent victims with their own guns; instead, they simply grazed people with friendly metal projectiles.

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Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."

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bloomj31 replied on Fri, Aug 24 2012 12:19 PM

Did the shooter have more than one magazine?

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Clayton replied on Fri, Aug 24 2012 12:26 PM

Did the shooter have more than one magazine?

Yes, this is the most likely hypothesis since most shootings occur with multiple magazines and cops rarely, if ever, shoot innocent bystanders.

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bloomj31 replied on Fri, Aug 24 2012 12:33 PM

I'm just trying to figure out what happened.

It's entirely possible that the police shot innocent bystanders by accident.

But then maybe this guy had an extra magazine and he reloaded after shooting his co-worker.

They did say he put the gun into a bag, he might've had more ammo in there.  Just saying.

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Most disgusting video Just another video on the fed:

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OnCNN today:

 

 

Republicans eye a return to gold standard

Annalyn Censky


New York (CNNMoney) -- Is gold money? Some Republicans think it should be.

The Republican Party is considering setting up a commission to examine the pros and cons of going back to the gold standard, according to draft documents of the party platform.

The official party platform won't be decided until Monday, but a Republican National Committee spokeswoman confirmed the draft language to CNNMoney.

The commission harkens back to the early 1980s, when President Ronald Reagan set up a Gold Commission with the same intention. Only two members of the 17-member commission endorsed a return to the gold standard. One of them was Rep. Ron Paul, who remains an avid gold supporter.

"Now, three decades later, as we face the task of cleaning up the wreckage of the current Administration's policies, we propose a similar commission to investigate possible ways to set a fixed value for the dollar," the new proposal says.

It's highly unlikely the United States would actually return to the gold standard. The country first moved away from the gold standard in 1933, and dropped it altogether in 1971. Despite support for its return by some on the political right, few mainstream economists support its reinstatement.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has repeatedly expressed concerns about the idea, sometimes even sparring with Paul in Congressional hearings. Research has shown the rigid constraints of the gold standard worsened the Great Depression, he said. Gold prices can also be volatile.

Plus, there's not enough gold in the world to support such a system, as Bernanke noted in a lecture earlier this year.

"To have a gold standard, you have to go to South Africa or someplace and dig up tons of gold and move it to New York and put it in the basement of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and that's a lot of effort and work," he said.

It's an "awful big waste of resources," he added.

But just in case the idea does gain more traction, here are some rough calculations of what would happen to gold prices, courtesy of Julian Jessop, chief global economist for Capital Economics.

The U.S. monetary base, which includes paper bills, coins and some deposits at the Fed, is currently around $2.6 trillion. Meanwhile, the U.S. Treasury and Federal Reserve hold about 260 million ounces in gold.

That means, if the government wanted every single dollar to be swapped with gold, the price of gold would have to be $10,000 per ounce.

Of course, that's an "extreme assumption," Jessop notes. He points out that under another scenario, the government could simply opt to have just 15% of the money supply redeemable for gold at any given time. If that was the case, the price could be set at around $1,500 an ounce -- not far from its current market value of around $1,670.

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Classic.

(pay attention to the [insert derogatory term for annoyingly dumb females] starting at about 2:28.  Their reaction is priceless, in a sad kind of way.  And we get a bonus confirmation at the end too.)

Also on the plus side, it looks like Schiff's gotten them to turn up the volume on his earpiece.  yes

 

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gotlucky replied on Sat, Aug 25 2012 10:55 AM

Holy ******* hell.

Empire State Building shooting victim says NYPD fired 'randomly' into street

Reports suggest that while Johnson drew his gun when he was confronted by officers, he did not fire; all those injured appear to have been shot by police. The New York police commissioner, Raymond Kelly, said officers had no choice but to act as they did: police discharged 14 rounds and the gunman died at the scene.

 

Robert Asika was among those wounded, shot in the elbow from a distance of around eight feet by one of the two police officers who confronted Johnson. He accused police of "shooting randomly", and said he saw at least two others hit by police bullets.

"If you're gonna aim try and aim perfectly. If you wanna aim at the target, you got to know what you're doing because it's the street," Asika said. "I could have been dead right now. I could have been dead."

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Lapse replied on Sat, Aug 25 2012 12:43 PM

A friend just linked me to a video of the shooting in NYC.

**WARNING** It shows Johnson being killed.

 

What blows me away is that you see one of the two officers with his gun drawn approaching Johnson, one handed.  Then when Johnson pulls out his gun, the cop begins to start shooting ONE HANDED.  This cop thinks hes John McClane.  It is almost unbelieveable but for some reason I am not surprised.

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Clayton replied on Sat, Aug 25 2012 5:57 PM

Neil Armstrong passes away

He almost certainly never set foot on the moon, however. I think the astronauts are generally good guys and likely did whatever they did on the notion they were serving their country by helping defeat the Soviets in the "Space Race" which the hawks held as a crucial parallel front in the Cold War. They were all originally military men (test pilots).

In a 1994 speech commemorating the Apollo landings - Armstrong said, "... we have only completed a beginning. We leave you much that is undone. There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of the truth's protective layers. There are places to go beyond belief..."

With the end of the Cold War and the passing of some of the Old Guard, we may get a chance to peek under some of the truth's protective layers. RIP Mr. Armstrong.

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Wheylous replied on Sat, Aug 25 2012 7:25 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/nypd-empire-state-victims-hit-police-gunfire-180844387.html

All nine people injured during a dramatic confrontation between police and a gunman outside the Empire State Building were wounded by gunfire from the two officers

Law enforcement working to protect you at its finest.

I sometimes think we libertarians pay too much attention to how many people get killed in what accident, but actually this is exactly the virtue people in a free society should have - active vigilance to keep their chosen police department in check. Such things are vital.

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Ugh..  The moon landing now too?  Is nothing sacred?!

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Wheylous replied on Sat, Aug 25 2012 8:29 PM

Weiner's recent comic, in case you missed it. I'd like to think it's about unintended consequences:

 

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Wheylous replied on Sat, Aug 25 2012 8:29 PM

My favorite bit:

"We're replacing 'maternity leave' with 'leave maternity'" :P

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Good movie: "In Time", it's based in the future where no one ages past 25 and money is time.  They trade labor and goods for time that they somehow keep on their wrist.  The rich capitalist in the movie calls the society a pure Darwin capitalist natural selection society.  The theme is the rich steal from the poor so they can live forever while the poor die.

i think it's a very good interpretation of what the socialist in Hollywood believe capitalism is.

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eliotn replied on Sun, Aug 26 2012 9:36 PM

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Good movie: "In Time", it's based in the future where no one ages past 25 and money is time.  They trade labor and goods for time that they somehow keep on their wrist.  The rich capitalist in the movie calls the society a pure Darwin capitalist natural selection society.  The theme is the rich steal from the poor so they can live forever while the poor die.

i think it's a very good interpretation of what the socialist in Hollywood believe capitalism is."

Yeah I heard about that, and thats a good point.  Socialists think that the rich are essentially controlling their lives by controlling their income.  What they don't realize is that the stereotypical rich business owners/investors are actually indirectly benefiting them, and they dismiss all attempts to convince them of that as trickle-down theory.  They may loathe the conservatism because they notice the alliance between governments and businesses, because in their minds government should be helping people, not businesses (except when the businesses give people JOBS), but they don't see how it could be different if government was out of the picture entirely.

Some may think that the poor should be wealthy because they do what is seen; they labor hard, work long hours.  They see an apparent injustice because they see poor people working their butts off for little, while the rich get much for seemingly nothing.  Yet, a lot of things are unseen, as people need business investors to identify where it is productive to work, they need capitalists to bear the initial costs, so that the laborer can work his job, confident that his money will come independent of whether the business "works".  Yet the importance of deeds such of this is hard to notice.

 

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Bert replied on Mon, Aug 27 2012 9:49 AM

14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana

This made me lol.  From the article you find releases by A Beka Book, such as United States History: Heritage of Freedom, "Perhaps the best known work of propaganda to come from the Depression was John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath…Other forms of propaganda included rumors of mortgage foreclosures, mass evictions, and hunger riots and exaggerated statistics representing the number of unemployed and homeless people in America."  - because that never happened.

I had always been impressed by the fact that there are a surprising number of individuals who never use their minds if they can avoid it, and an equal number who do use their minds, but in an amazingly stupid way. - Carl Jung, Man and His Symbols
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Wheylous replied on Mon, Aug 27 2012 3:07 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/speech-nixon-never-gave-event-moon-disaster-171446192.html

 

The speech that Nixon never gave: ‘In event of moon disaster’

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Wheylous replied on Mon, Aug 27 2012 3:45 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/prosecutor-ga-murder-case-uncovers-terror-plot-173341769.html

Four Army soldiers based in southeastGeorgia killed a former comrade and his girlfriend to protect ananarchist militia group they formed that stockpiled assault weapons and plotted a range of anti-government attacks

Sigh. Non-AnCaps giving anarchism overall a bad name.

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Clayton replied on Tue, Aug 28 2012 12:22 AM

Some more kick-ass Larken Rose:

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Is larken rose an austrian Ancap?

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Student replied on Tue, Aug 28 2012 12:32 AM

gif i want to use one day....

someone write a brilliant post so I can have an excuse!

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Wheylous replied on Tue, Aug 28 2012 7:26 AM

Hah! Is that Holmes? I love that show! I recently discovered it on Netflix Instant Play, and it's amazing!

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Wheylous replied on Tue, Aug 28 2012 7:28 AM

I was one of the guests on a segment on Bitcoins on Huffington Post Live today. (I take the against position)

I like how one of the top comments at the moments is bitbutter.

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