If we made all education private, then how will the very poor be able to afford it? How will they be educated? Sure, the current system isn't perfect, but it's a decent way of getting the most children educated. If it was private, the poor would get shitty education, or none at all. The disparity would be tremendous. It's just buying yourself the best education, and that's not right. It isn't considering the importance of educating the broad base of our youth.
Provate education is all about money. It would just be a business, and that isn't what education should be about.
What's your definition of "education"? And what do you think it should be all about?
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These posts remind me of the initial reaction that anyone on the street has to these issues.
If we made all education private, then how will the very poor be able to afford it?
By getting jobs and sacrificing other things in order to pay for it.
How will they be educated?
This is actually not my problem.
Sure, the current system isn't perfect, but it's a decent way of getting the most children educated.
I'm not sure I would call the current indoctrination system of means testing to the LCD "education."
If it was private, the poor would get shitty education, or none at all
You are "verifying" your own presumptions. This is not provable anymore than: "If Hitler won WWII, we'd all speak German." It is that pesky "if" that really makes it difficult to tell things about the past or future.
It's just buying yourself the best education, and that's not right.
Why isn't this okay? You sound jealous.
It isn't considering the importance of educating the broad base of our youth.
Why is it my responsibility to pay for other people's things in life?
I think you meant "private."
And education would not be all about money. It would be about providing the best service possible in order to obtain money. You haters always seem to omit that part.
@kylio27
People here don't care about consequences, only about their set of principles. They're also for totally private health-care. If you're poor and can't afford- you'll die of some curable disease, tough luck, it's the capitalist way things go.
They're also for totally private health-care. If you're poor and can't afford- you'll die of some curable disease, tough luck, it's the capitalist way things go.
That is not capitalism. That is Darwinism. No, not social darwinism (it is wrong headed to think they are different).
Simple fact is human society is just as bound in nature as wolves or parrots or monkeys. Dogs have litters. Litters have runts. The runts die and this furthers the genes of those that can survive.
The shame is that the system, in various ways, can make people poor or rich through illegtimiate mechanisms.
People here don't care about consequences, only about their set of principles.
As opposed to your set of principles? Or do the consequences that stem from your principles eliminate your principles and their consequences as being in the categories of "principles" and "consequences." They must be above judgement in that way...they are just self-evident positives...res ipsa loquitur...
The lady doth protest too much, methinks...
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Obviously, me.
Serious. Bring back the Nike shoes, satellite tv and cheap airline tickets. At least the genuine spam had a point.
Aristophanes: These posts remind me of the initial reaction that anyone on the street has to these issues.
Exactly. That is why I like them. They keep us on our toes.
To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process. Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!" Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."
If you actually care, the reading list is here:
http://candlemind.com/projects/progclub/file/michael/getEducated.php?listID=9
If you don't care, then the list is not there.
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Good stuff comes from competition in the market, not from a bloated monopoly mafia which we jokingly call government. 'Nuff said
Private food production is all about money, how the hell the poor are not starving?
Private fashion industry is all about money, how the hell the poor are not naked?
We NEED public food production, because food shouldn't be a business.
If we made all food production private, then how will the very poor be able to afford it? How will they be fed? Sure, the Soviet system isn't perfect, but it's a decent way of getting the most children fed. If it was private, the poor would get shitty food, or none at all. The disparity would be tremendous. It's just buying yourself the best food, and that's not right. It isn't considering the importance of feeding the broad base of our youth.
Provate food is all about money. It would just be a business, and that isn't what food should be about.
The Soviets had it right. But hey you don't have to take my word for it. Just look at the results! You "free market" morons are so stupid it's not even funny.
@JJ
YES! LOL!
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the government can take care of the poor by killing the poor. reduce the population to the those that fit set standards and that will be a solution to problems.
without government, learning would have reason behind it, people would be taught better and for cheaper.
"It's a decent way of getting the most children educated"
Oh, okay. Public education, FTW!
If it was private, the poor would get shitty education, or none at all.
In the future, I expect to see more homeschool and online education. The public schools in my area are beginning to offer online education and I'm not just speaking of college. This is for the area highschools. Meetup.org is allowing parents to come together and form co-op education. The online model offers lower overhead, this means more affordability. I expect to see tutorials, lesson plans, etc. being offered (MIT already does for free)as well as lectures through a skype like interactive video. This is already happening in higher-ed and with places like this sites own Mises U. I would also expect things like open-source information and p2p file sharing to offer these things for free.
The common argument I hear against it are "What if people don't have access to technology." This isn't a problem as a lot of people, inlcuding young folks have smart phones and I-pod's with video capability and tablets are growing more popular.
SkepticalMetal:Oh, okay. Public education, FTW!
Once again, I'm gonna defer back to my "survival of the fittest" example.
Oh yeah, and relevent for this thread:
from Guides and Knowledge for your Intellectual Journey:
We NEED public cellphone communications, public housing, public meals, and public toilets, public fuckhouses (brothel) because all of these shouldn't be a business.
All of the above is required for any human being in america to thrive!
How dare you capitalists turn these essential goods into a greedy privatized system!
“Since people are concerned that ‘X’ will not be provided, ‘X’ will naturally be provided by those who are concerned by its absence.""The sweetest of minds can harbor the harshest of men.”
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@John James
...I was being sarcastic, I agree with you.
Gotlucky - correct
Jargon - It works fine. Did you click the "Skip Ad" buttonon Forbes?
SkepticalMetal:@John James ...I was being sarcastic, I agree with you.
I know. I was just offering another supporting example.
Sorry. I naturally attempt to interpret the underlying tone of one's message, it's one of the downsides of e-mail and written communication in general.