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Willy Truth Posted: Thu, Nov 29 2012 9:35 PM

 

I...I don't...What?

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ricarpe replied on Thu, Nov 29 2012 9:47 PM

This statement probably has a similar logical thought process as people who say things such as:  "I use (insert service/company name) so often, I should get a discount/something for free!"

It's a poor understanding of economics at its most basic level.

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Neodoxy replied on Thu, Nov 29 2012 10:05 PM

Hahaha, that's awesome

Tell him that it's funny that people who buy music don't ask the government to take their money away.

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He is basically saying that if governmennt taxation is stealing, then why do people who believe in this also "steal" music by downloading it (because we libertarians hate the RIAA MPAA copyrights and love piratebay).

 

Im a damn good communicator with trolls.

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Excellent translation Kelvin!

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The way I look at it, what this guy is saying is the equivelant to:

"If my welfare checks stop coming in and I have to go get a real job...who will be there to watch re-runs of The Munsters!? I provide a valuable service to the television industry!"

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I would say it's a non sequitur. However, he's trying to imply that the people who complain about the government stealing their money through taxes and such also "steal" through copyright infringement, etc.

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Blargg replied on Thu, Nov 29 2012 11:21 PM

It's funny that in both cases it's government claiming other people's property: other people's money, and other people's computer storage.

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Haha, Munsters...

What do y'all think the easiest way to explain to a non-libertarian why "pirating" music is not immoral/should not be illegal?

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jmorris84 replied on Fri, Nov 30 2012 6:15 PM

Willy Truth:

Haha, Munsters...

What do y'all think the easiest way to explain to a non-libertarian why "pirating" music is not immoral/should not be illegal?

By getting them to understand that it isn't stealing.

When you download a song, you aren't taking a song away from anyone else. Everyone who had that song before still has their song and if anyone else wants to download that song, they still can. If you go to a store and take a pair of sneakers without paying, you are removing 1 less pair of shoes from the market and you are doing so illigitimately because you've aggressed against someone else's property.

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So since property arises to allocate scarce resources--things that can be used by only one actor at a time, digital music does not qualify as property because it can be copied?

So what on my hard drive qualifies as property?

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Willy Truth:

So since property arises to allocate scarce resources--things that can be used by only one actor at a time, digital music does not qualify as property because it can be copied?

So what on my hard drive qualifies as property?

The entire hard drive is your property, unless you've entered into a contract that says otherwise about the use of the data contained within it; Diablo 3 for example.

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