This is my theory of how exactly people are set off to violent public outbursts.
Preamble:
The gun maker's comments:
This is the [second to] last post John Noveske made on his Facebook page before he was killed: Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public. Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded. Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event. Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac. Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft. Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days. Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment. Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others. A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school. Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded.. A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another. Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others. TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates. Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat. James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers. Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times. Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman. Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister. Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications. Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants. Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled. Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself. Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002. Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil...") Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.) Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage. Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet. Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill. Woody __, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms. A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased. Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions." Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine. Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system. Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide. Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone. Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school. Missing from list... 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds.... What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21...... killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24..... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct Roberts is the only one that I haven't heard about being on drugs of some kind.
My thesis:
"Posthypnotic Suggestion: Posthypnotic Suggestions are statements or commands given to people while under hypnosis that the person acts on when in a full waking state. This is sometimes used to help people achieve goals such as losing weight or stopping an addiction or other unwanted behavior. These statements need to be in a positive form and not be negative. For example, the statement, "You will no longer have nightmares" is a negative statement because it states what is not wanted. On the other hand, "You will sleep peacefully with pleasant dreams," is a positive statement because it states what is wanted. Statements should also be a behavior that the person wants because a person will resist any compulsion (no matter if it is under hypnosis or not) if he or she does not want to do it. Likewise, hypnosis cannot force someone do anything against their moral code." Psychotropic drugs habitually taken by kids that results in a permanent alteration of the person's natural brain functions (due to excessive foreign chemicals and hormones) is pejoratively referred to as a "chemical lobotomy." Now, if kids that have psychotic issues are given psychotropic drugs that are designed to nullify their frontal lobe and make them more complacent and suggestive (drugs given to increase attention span, ADHD, ADD, depression, etc.), and specific imprints are broadcast, say in movies or TV or radio or news, those of which are predisposed to violent behavior, i.e., that they already want to do it, will be compelled to act on these post hypnotic suggestions. The prior mental state and the drugs may provide the mental state of waking hypnosis (inducing psychosis) that is required. Certain light combinations agitate certain parts of the brain. The part of the brain that handles hostility and anger being agitated within the frames per second of video is not out of the realm of possibility. Computer and TV fire still frame images against light sources that crete still frame images upwards of 20, 30, 40 times per second. Your eye only picks up around 24 frames per second; your eye is processing 24ish (minimum) still-frame images that it receives as "motion picture." Inserting one different frame every, let us say, seven frames provides your eye with flashes of light that it sees, but that it does not comprehend three times per second. This is how subliminal advertising was first theorized (ethical quandaries prevent its widespread use, obviously). Certain vibrational frequencies also, on top of frustration, agitate hostility and anger. In audible tones that target this part of the brain could be considerable as well. There are examples of inaudible tones (vibrational frequencies that the ear and brain recieve, but that the agent does not hear) in the movie industry. Movie companies use inaudible tones in theater releases to identify pirated files on the internet. People who pirate the movie in the theater record a sound on their camera that is inaudible to human ears, but is picked up by the microphone and then when the person transfers the video to a digital format the tone is transfered as well. The game consoles have markers within their software that identifies the frequency of the tone and prevents the console from playing the file. This is a measure designed by the major media companies to prevent people from using their PlayStations and X-Boxes to play pirated movie files. We know that frequencies are used in broadcast for that reason... This all may still be true; intended or unintended by the actors that bring about all of the things necessary for it. Presented above is my thesis. The news media reporting on violent happenings (shootings, murders, police encounters, etc.) encourages the behavior of those who fit into the categories stated above. Stay away from psychotropic drugs.
"Posthypnotic Suggestion: Posthypnotic Suggestions are statements or commands given to people while under hypnosis that the person acts on when in a full waking state. This is sometimes used to help people achieve goals such as losing weight or stopping an addiction or other unwanted behavior. These statements need to be in a positive form and not be negative. For example, the statement, "You will no longer have nightmares" is a negative statement because it states what is not wanted. On the other hand, "You will sleep peacefully with pleasant dreams," is a positive statement because it states what is wanted. Statements should also be a behavior that the person wants because a person will resist any compulsion (no matter if it is under hypnosis or not) if he or she does not want to do it. Likewise, hypnosis cannot force someone do anything against their moral code."
Psychiatric Drugs as Agents of Trauma
an excerpt:
"Ranking the psych drugs in decreasing order as I did above for the illegal drugs, first are 1) the antipsychotic drugs, which are generally so disabling and toxic that they have been shown to cause early death [6, 7, 46, 47]. Second are 2) the antidepressant drugs, which share many toxic effects with the antipsychotics and often cause an increase in suicidal thoughts and completed suicides, as well as homicides, when compared with placebos [6, 7, 19]. ""
On "Anchoring"
http://www.hypnosis101.com/wordpress/nlp/anchoring/anchoring-suggestions/
Fascinating. Although as usual, I have no flipping idea how hypnosis actually works.
Why was the shooter trying to document the circumstances of the other shootings?
Noveske was not a shooter. He was a weapons manufacturer that recently died. That was his last post on Facebook, which has lead some to believe there was foul play involved in his death.
Well, that solves that problem.
to be honest, the gun lobby is trying to avoid being the scapegoat for the recent shooting and are trying to themselves scapegoat anything else, pharmas, games, movies, etc.
This is hypnosis through the drugs, and their effects in forming their brain activity, and the individuals state of mind (TV, or w/e, not critical thinking mode).
I tend to believe that people can be influenced by frequencies of any sort (like the # of frames broadcast by a TV).
Music of the spheres.
http://ray.tomes.biz/alex.htm
I just glanced over this link and I think it may, depending on how this thread goes, prove to be a conversation starter.
Isn't it just easier to say that these kids had some type of social behavior / profile in common, rather than do these types of correlations. Looking at the dramatic cases is probably not gong to do much good, nor is bringing the issue to the public at large.
Even if there is a problem with these psychiatric methods of prescribing these types of drugs (and I believe there is): I think trying to tie all these things together is just going to confuse any issue at hand - particularly if we are bringing these very dramatic "celebrity cases" to the forefront and out of a professional health disscussion. Such a thing can only add to public hysteria.
It's like when I hear of some "gimmick" disease on the news, and the next thing you know you get an ER full of people with nothing but headaches thinking they have the latest scare of e. coli. Though this is worse, because it's politically charged and psychological.
"As in a kaleidoscope, the constellation of forces operating in the system as a whole is ever changing." - Ludwig Lachmann
"When A Man Dies A World Goes Out of Existence" - GLS Shackle
Do you think the government puts kids on these medicines so they can further political agenda (gun control/sandy hook)?
Does ritallin also have the same effect on the children?
“Since people are concerned that ‘X’ will not be provided, ‘X’ will naturally be provided by those who are concerned by its absence.""The sweetest of minds can harbor the harshest of men.”
http://voluntaryistreader.wordpress.org
I don't think "the government" functions in any such way. It's more or less a "naive" outcome of how the system, subsidies, and incentives are set up - which is frankly, way to big a topic for me to know anything about with any geat conviction in my 29 years of existence.
In this case we would just look at what a bureaucracy is, what a subsidy does, federalization etc, etc. To think in terms of "the government does X" or what "the government wants" seems to be missing the mark on looking at any question in a useful context, and at it's worse could probably lead people down strange paths of thinking.
Such a thing can only add to public hysteria.
Duh, it is a conspiracy theory. What else do those do?
This is also in an episode of the X-Files (Season 3 - Wetwired). It was a DoD private contractor experiment on the public.