Hi guys..
I did a lot of bad shit in high school, and got into a lot of trouble, so i am probably going to get expelled.
There are 2 pathways for me to choose at the moment.
1. Go to private high school (i hate school in america in general, not just private vs public, the whol education system is fucked up).
2. Take my CHSPE test (a california ged basically), and then attend community college for 2 years and transfer to a university.
Thoughts?
I am leaning towards choice number 2 since it will save me 2 years of my life of not being in school, and in addition, will look rather impressive.
I am not a gifted student, nor am i special so considering choice number 2 will greatly put alot more academic workload for me, which i think will be manageable if i apply myself. Road 1 sounds easier but i will be wasting 2 - 3 years in high school again.
I just don't know.
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Geez, what did you do?
And personally I'd just go the GED route - what's important these days is that you do well on your SATs, and that's about it (if you're going for college/university) so I wouldn't worry too much about it. I'm not even going for a diploma, it just seems as though they really don't give a hoot about it any more.
get a job, any job, asap. get into good physical shape, if you are not so already, and spend more time chasing women.
... just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own - Albert Jay Nock
Mr. Silva, I think you ought to give this a good glance:
http://lewrockwell.com/orig13/oconnell4.1.1.html
Things may not be as bad as they appear to be. You seem to have the gift for computer science, so go with that. Heck, you could do would Kakugo was telling me about, like going to Singapore and starting up shop there, or whatever. The point is, there are a long, long list of people who have gone on to be very successful without school - the only drop-outs who you hear about who are negatively depicted are the ones who left school without any sort of ambition (which the school probably stripped them of a long time ago). Just know that it's far from impossible to go your own way without any sort of credential given to you by school - very far from impossible indeed.
Also, I know you have no interest in pursuing anything in film, but regardless, I think I'll just throw this in the mix - I'm going for filmmaking, and do you think public school teaches me jack about that? My point here is that grades are practically meaningless in many industries, the key ingrediant that you must have being the amount of ambition and your willingness to pursue.
1) Take the CHSPE its a piece of cake.
2) Go to school full time (12 credits a semester) and APPLY YOURSELF! Make sure you get a 4.0. Do not get a C in any class. Use rate my professor to find the easiest professors to make sure you get an easy professor and maintain a 4.0.
3) Apply for financial aid. IDK what your highschool GPA is, but if it is fine you can collect a check, not just from the federal government, but from the state too. If you are elligible for the FAFSA, California's Board of Governors Waiver will pay for your classes. The check you get from the feds or the state you could spend on books, living expenses, or something like a car. Don't waste your check on frivolous things, buy necessities and save the rest.
4) Talk to a counsellor ASAP and finish up your IGETSI requirements while thinking about what University you want to transfer too.
5) If you do mess up your first semesters it will haunt you. Many top universities require students to have at least a 3.5. So, your first semester take only 12 credits and see if you can handle more.
6) The most important rule. Do not argue with your instructor no matter how stupid they are, it will affect your grade.
7) I'm guessing you will want to be a computer science major. Get your Associates in comp science (take around 2 years) and that will make you qualified for some jobs related to computers.
Kelvin, this is a great opportunity. You are very lucky this happened to you and you have someone who was in your same situation that you can talk to. I wish I was expelled a year earlier.
Thanks for the advice.
I mailed in a chspe registration so im good on that.
The only problem is getting parental approval to go to community college.
Do your parents not want you to go?
EmbraceLiberty gave the best advice. I was in your position 10yrs ago and I wish I knew I had the option of dropping out and going to community college. Instead I wasted time at alt-ed and got expelled. If you do finish HS don't go to alt-ed, it's full of slackers and deliquents and you will seriously waste your time. You'll probably get so bored you'll get into more trouble. The only thing alt-ed is good for is finding parties and getting weed connects. As far as your parents, I would write out my argument, sit down with them and explain why going to HS is a waste of time (you know what you want to do and the diploma is worthless so why not get a ahead start instead of wasting your time) this may make you seem very mature and it might work.
The best advice was to do good in CC and keep your nose clean. A lot of college students screw up by partying hard their first few years then struggle to make it at the end. Get the hard stuff out of the way then let loose. By that time you'll be old enough to buy beer but young enough to still hang at college parties and you can snatch some socialist's girlfriend. You'll be the 2Chainz of libertarianism, girls will be like "You're different. You're so smart but you're such a bad ass. You totally destroyed my boyfriends equal work for equal pay argument. I wanna suck your cock." That's when you take the mutualist position to screw with their head like, "Nah baby, let's 69 I don't believe in hierarchy." Their boyfriends will be like "Jenny don't you see he's using his capitalist techniques to exploit you." He'll grab her by the arm then you go "I told you, socialists want to control you, they don't believe in the self determination of women. Look buddy, she wants to hug my balls not a tree. Go cry a river and give some fish a new home." She'll be like "Jeremy let me go, casual sex is empowering." Then you'll get laid and convert someone to libertarianism in one stroke (pun intended). Yeah screw high school, go to college.
Well, you're standing at the crossroads and all you need now is to consider as many alternatives as possible. I'm definitely not in a position to advise you something, so I'll just share with you a couple of links.
1. 8 Alternatives to College
I found this blog a year and half ago, and since then I have been reading it occasionally. That guy (James Altucher) is an entrepreneur and shares his strories of ups and downs (mostly downs) in a very straighforward way. Based on what I've read, some of his ideas can be regarded as libertarian even though, as he claims, he doesn't associate himself with any political party.
Other links explore alternative ways of education.
2. Do-It-Yourself Degree.
I'm not a US citizen so I don't know whether it is feasible or not, but this guy shows how to earn a bachelor degree in a fast and, as far as I understand, debt-free way.
I found this site by reading this post. The author of the blog has recently finished a rather ingenious challenge - finish a 4year MIT program in one year. This is quite impressive and, I think, may be inspiring for you to consider a path of self-education.
http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/mit-challenge/
3. Finally, a book that had a huge impact on me.
How I found freedom in an unfree world by Harry Browne
Unfortunately, I can't find the exact site where I downloaded it a year ago, but there are plenty of sources still.
I hope something I posted makes sense; anyway, I wish you luck in your future aspirations.
I pretty much second the suggestions given here.
Get your GED and then give community college your best. If you do decently well, it will matter little that you did not finish highschool, and even your SATs will be significantly less important to prospective 4 year universities.
Learn computer programming. Seriously - it's awesome :D
Ive learned c++ and a bit of java..
All means nothing if you dont have a degree..
Thanks for the support guys..
Get your highschool diploma. The people you will be competing against will have their own diploma and you have a GED makes you look like you can't handle basic high school. No reason to accept someone who has a GED when you have hundreds of others who put the time into high school.
'Men do not change, they unmask themselves' - Germaine de Stael
By the time he is 18 he would have his associates which would blow a highschool diploma out of the water. Sure, he's not going to be able to get a job til then but again he wouldn't have a highschool diploma until he was 18 so it wouldn't matter.
That is assuming i ONLY get a ged.
I am also going to go to community college which is probably harder and more rigorous than high school.
Kinda a moot point but i understand the mentality you are bringing forward.
Ive learned c++ and a bit of java.. All means nothing if you dont have a degree..
This isn't true. If you make programs, mods, apps, etc. they are your "degree." This should be the most attractive option anyway because you can just sit in your pajamas and make them and market them online.
What did you do in high school to get expelled? We all went to high school, I did bad shit but never to the level of expulsion...just what inclines you to ideologically back anarchy?
Meistro:chasing women.
Unless you want to be charged with sexual harassment and imprisoned/put in a straightjacket, I strongly advise against chasing women.
wrong! all that matters is your ability to code. half the degrees out there are garbage anyway.
What Malachi said is absolutely right. Your statement would be correct if it said "Degrees mean nothing if you don't have the right stuff...and even then they are usually a load of schlock."
I double majored in Caucasian Studies and Masculinology.