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cab21 Posted: Sun, Apr 28 2013 4:39 PM

so i have started to read atlas shrugged, right now i'm at a point where characters depend on technology that does not exist, is this a good way to show a alturnative to what we have now? galt's gultch depends on forms of technology that we don't even have to run energy and create defence, two crucial  aspects of living.

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Wheylous replied on Mon, Apr 29 2013 9:26 AM

Yeah, that's one thing I don't like about it.

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I don't want to give too much away but wait until you get to the part when the government invents a machine and kills random goats with it

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Malachi replied on Mon, Apr 29 2013 4:55 PM

the plot also depends on characters who dont exist, but you didnt even notice. are you that convinced at existence is a necessary precondition for a plot device to have utility? have you ever heard of a mcguffin?

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cab21 replied on Mon, Apr 29 2013 4:57 PM

oh cool,

i though rands premise was that the government can't invent anything?

i also have no idea why she says military is ok but reardon won't sell to the military at any price his product

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Malachi replied on Mon, Apr 29 2013 5:07 PM

in her nonfiction Rand acknowledged that the government had invented nuclear power; but we know better, scientists (employed by the govt) invented nuclear power and weapons, their names are known.

Rand's novels are like that because she is a romantic, everything is representative of the ideal case. thats why all the real men have square jaws and all the socialists have names like "renfew smedly groat"

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cab21 replied on Mon, Apr 29 2013 7:50 PM

scientists both public and private have invented useful technology with funding both private and public. one difference is the legitimacy of the funding.

military technology wise, i don't see how political pull would not effect military but it would effect non military projects. public business by nature can't work like private business in terms of decisions and contracts and how each discriminates.

starting the thread on technology, and then the characters are mentioned, just read chapter 1 of part 3, characters are superhuman and put our self made billionairs to shame.

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so i have started to read atlas shrugged, right now i'm at a point where characters depend on technology that does not exist, is this a good way to show a alturnative to what we have now? galt's gultch depends on forms of technology that we don't even have to run energy and create defence, two crucial  aspects of living.

This is a very good question.

In real life, a libertarian experiment like Galt's gulch, without the cloaking technology and the free energy thing, would probably become vulnerable to Federal government seizure sooner or later.

Like the Waco siege and other similar episodes.

Ms Rand probably understood this and that's why she devised these science fiction subterfuges.

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