Libertyandlife:Political group's theories always have to agree somewhere, it's better to come together for a certain cause, then to make that person your enemy and to have nothing.
Tom Woods sets a great example with his book We Who Dared to Say No to War, which is co-authored with a leftist.
Libertarianism has an enormous amount to offer to people of all political persuasions, whether their main issues are defending human rights, ending poverty, upholding privacy, safeguarding the environment, helping minorities and women, promoting peace, ending terrorism, ensuring quality and affordable health care for the greatest number, curbing corruption and abuse of power, advancing science and technology, even stopping corporate shenanigans.
Most people with any political views do not hold them because they believe aggression is justified. They hold them because they believe they will be the best way to solve one or more such problems as those listed above. Hence if we are clever in our arguments, we should be able to make allies in every camp - without compromising our own views at all.
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I started a blog on blogspot to write down my thoughts. It was supposed to help me with my self-education, as I don't go to college. But anyway, it turned out a couple of my friends fount out about it and read my first two posts and wanted to hear my view more. So now there's around 7-8 people reading my blog.
I don't keep a schedule for when I make a new post, I just drop one off whenever I feel I've made my position clear enough.
Anyway, if anyone is interested, here it is: Lawsome 101
You observe, but you do not see.
Lawsome:Anyway, if anyone is interested, here it is: Lawsome 101
Your current front page post is excellent. Very nice stuff.
Thank you.
You might notice that Walter Block and Stefan Molyneux have played a heavy role in my thinking process.
I have to say that your off to a good start with that. good work.
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I believe that school is not the place to talk those things. Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929) said: "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head." Younger people simply tend to believe more just because they do not have made enogh life experience. And to be honest: Socialism sounds very good. Otherwise there would never have been efforts to establish it. And socialism even works - at least for some time (meaning as long as other peoples money run out - or those peoplet that work realize that they get bad pay).
The most important aspect to me is "Live as you teach - and talk about it and explain the reasons why".
I´ve made the experience that most people are "Libertarians" without knowing about it. At least most of all reasonable and honest people. People are infact not so stupid that they would not realice what is happening out there. The only problem is that still quite many people have some sort of feeling that they do profitate from the socialist system. Some of the latter are infact wrong - just because they get much less than they have to give. But still there is a bunch of people who just expect to get paid for their existance.
A few months ago jtucker posted a link to a media suitable for publication. I think it was "MISES LIVES" with stylized logo and a link to the website.
I have placed that advertizement in the local newspaper a few times. It wasn't long after that that the Mrs. said she heard a local radio personality mention Mises on his radio program. Don't know if the had may have prompted him to mention it, but it sure was encouraging to see and hear some public recognition.
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I have helped found an Austro-Libertarian study group at our university. We're meeting once a week to discuss a pre-determined piece of writing, either dealing with economics or philosophy. The inspiration comes from the 'Mises circle' meetings in Vienna. There are only 6 of us right now, and I think we were all Ron Paul supporters at one point. At least two of us are now an-caps.
Right now, we're looking entirely inward, focusing on our own education in these areas. In the future, we may look outward to the university at large and start a recruitment and proselytizing campaign. Until then, it should be fun to have someone to talk these things over with outside of the internet. Hopefully this will give us even more incentive to expand our knowledge.
I would encourage anyone else in college to use social networking tools (e.g. Facebook) to look for other people who are interested in liberty. It can be a very fulfilling endeavor. Imagine my excitement when I met someone who was in the middle of reading Hoppe's DTGTF. It was/is extremely exciting!
This is something that everyone who's in college should attempt IMO.
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I started a local Austrian-economics meetup and had little interest. I made a new anarcho-capitalist group to see what I could get and found quiet a bit more interest. So hopefully it will go well! :)
MIses.org's alexa rank is around 17,000 worldwide, which great and wonderful, but I would sure love to see it move consistently above 10,000. Any ideas?
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I find the statistics a little surprising, it seems lewrockwell.com has traffic at the level you are ambitious for....
could we lobby Google to do one of their logo clickthrough's on the anniversary of Henry Hazlitts birthday?November 28, 1894
jtucker: MIses.org's alexa rank is around 17,000 worldwide, which great and wonderful, but I would sure love to see it move consistently above 10,000. Any ideas?
Is there a way to look at the growth over a larger period of time?
graph?&w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=t&b=ffffff&r=2y&u=mises.org&.png
nirgrahamUK:could we lobby Google to do one of their logo clickthrough's on the anniversary of Henry Hazlitts birthday?November 28, 1894
That is a good idea, have a picture of Hazlitt above the google title and have that picture link to a biography about Hazlitt at the Mises site.
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Genius if it could work.
If you frequent another site, I would suggest to put a link to mises.org in your sig anywhere and everywhere. Facebook, other forums, youtube, where ever you go to. That's how I originally got linked to this site, it was a link in the comments of a youtube video about some gun control debate issue. When I came here, the articles on the front page spawned my interest in Austrian Economics.
It's amazing what one simple link can do. It's probably been suggested already, idk, I didn't read the whole thread.
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Duties: Giving the people their bread and circuses, extracting payment by force, validating legitimacy, etc.
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Great suggestion. We all have accounts on other websites so everyone can do this.
Also, if you use gmail or yahoo, hotmail, msn, live etc for mail, you can add mises.org and maybe a quote from an Austrian as your email signature.
Promote alternative media! How do we get people to dump the newspaper and turn off the TV?
nirgrahamUK: graph?&w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=t&b=ffffff&r=2y&u=mises.org&.png
There's a definite stabilization at higher rankings since early/mid-2009, which is also when I joined and started reading. I can't remember what prompted me to - maybe it was Ron Paul, or maybe it was a Tom Woods video posted somewhere in the Ron Paul blogosphere. Whatever it was may be what got a whole lot more people coming here.
I think it would also be wonderful if you could get your family involved. Not just children, parents, and spouses but also aunts, uncles, and cousins.
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AJ: Libertyandlife:Political group's theories always have to agree somewhere, it's better to come together for a certain cause, then to make that person your enemy and to have nothing. Tom Woods sets a great example with his book We Who Dared to Say No to War, which is co-authored with a leftist. Libertarianism has an enormous amount to offer to people of all political persuasions, whether their main issues are defending human rights, ending poverty, upholding privacy, safeguarding the environment, helping minorities and women, promoting peace, ending terrorism, ensuring quality and affordable health care for the greatest number, curbing corruption and abuse of power, advancing science and technology, even stopping corporate shenanigans. Most people with any political views do not hold them because they believe aggression is justified. They hold them because they believe they will be the best way to solve one or more such problems as those listed above. Hence if we are clever in our arguments, we should be able to make allies in every camp - without compromising our own views at all.
Libertarians need to start getting involved in environment groups, anti-war movements etc. and make their presence felt.
I've been talking to a guy in my class about politics for ages and I posted him some libertarian books and PDFs through e-mail and have been trying to tell him more about it - I tried to quickly explain NAP to him. He seems generally interested but still somewhat skeptical. He's a bit resistant because he has supported the labour party,Is mildy left leaning and is mildly environmentalist.
I've done this sort of thing before with a younger women who was a bit leftist and who I printed out info for. This is one of my ways of getting the message out as well as having a blog of different topics not just libertarian ones (one concession, a few of the articles is of poor quality due to them being done really quickly without re-reading them or thinking too deeply about them)
http://anarchyisordergovernmentiscivilwar.blogspot.com/
I don't really want to comment or read anything here.I have near zero in common with many of you.I may return periodically when there's something you need to know.
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"Libertarians need to start getting involved in environment groups, anti-war movements etc. and make their presence felt. "
I try to do this.I think it's a great idea.I get involved with discussion about war and I'd like to one day set up a UK based group which is opposed to state schooling.
Although I don't vote, I do write letters,send emails and phone my so-called "representative and senators" regarding pending issues and express my concerns about the economic unintended consequenses of their passage. I have on senator that has started sending me updates on what he is supporting and not supporting.
I also email various articles to a list of friends so they get a completely different view (Austrian/Libertarian/Anarchist). Sometimes these articles evoke discussion which means the articles are getting read.
Another area that I am active in is Digg.com which gives me a platform to express my outrage as to the alleged global warming/climate change, ObamaCare, bailouts, stimuli, etc. Almost every post elicits criticism and gives me an opportunity to debate. And, I get a chance to criticize Socialistic, Keynesian programs and promote Libertarian and Austrian views.
One of the great things about Digg is it has a very large audience and you can reach that crowd quickly, cheaply (free) and easily. All of your comments and your "friends" comments are archived.
Today I just printed out some selections from Walter Block's book The Privatization of Roads and Highways and left a copy on a few houses. Hopefully that will get some people interested. Maybe Economics in One Lesson would be more effective though at getting people more aware of libertarianism.
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Anyone have any door hangers? If not, would it be possible for Mises.org to make some we could buy from the store? For example: http://www.doorhangers.com/index.shtml I was thinking about something along the lines that would let people know there are different schools of thought about economics, that Austrian economics is of course one of them, and that if they wanted to find out more about Austrian economics, to go to Mises.org. If Mises.org would put them in the store for us to buy and distribute, I would love to do that. The website has a default template that can be used.
At most, I think only 5% of the adult population would need to stop cooperating to have real change.
Interesting idea. After the first of the year, we are looking at a huge range of such things, like playing cards and chess sets and much more clothing, etc. etc.
Chess sets? You mean like this?
Hey,
I'm toying with the idea of planting wrapped presents around my neighborhood (Bushwick area in Brooklyn) that each contain a small, introductory book to econ and an informal letter that says something along the lines of:
"Hey! This is fun a introductory book on economics. I've always liked this book and thought that it did a good job of making an often boring (yet totally important) subject interesting and accessible to people who have never studied economics before. I hope that you enjoy it as I have and that you pass the book along to your friends or family. If you have any questions, comments, or would like to learn a little more about the subject, don't hesitate to write me at ___@___.com, and be sure to check out mises.org"
Something along those lines...
My question is: which book would you all recommend for this purpose? My neighborhood is predominantly Puerto Rican sprinkled with twenty-somethings (like myself) of diverse (but, considering NYC, most likely highly liberal) backgrounds.I'm thinking Economics in One Lesson. Any better ideas?
Alex M:Any better ideas?
I think you are over complicating it. What if it is found by people who don't like to read, or hate the market, or don't care about economics?
liberty student: Alex M:Any better ideas? I think you are over complicating it. What if it is found by people who don't like to read, or hate the market, or don't care about economics?
I agree. Why not just set up a stand and give out free copies to interested people?
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(from Gene Sharp, The Methods of Nonviolent Action, Boston 1973)
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FeedMeLiberty:...
That list pretty much has everything covered I'd say.
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Alex M: Hey, you all recommend for this purpose? My neighborhood is predominantly Puerto Rican sprinkled with twenty-somethings (like myself) of diverse (but, considering NYC, most likely highly liberal) backgrounds.I'm thinking Economics in One Lesson. Any better ideas?
you all recommend for this purpose? My neighborhood is predominantly Puerto Rican sprinkled with twenty-somethings (like myself) of diverse (but, considering NYC, most likely highly liberal) backgrounds.I'm thinking Economics in One Lesson. Any better ideas?
Those sprinkles in Williamsburg could be your worst enemy and a possible explosion. Those anti-grain kids will do anything to be different from each other and more "intellectual" since their parents belssed them with free rent and time. All they do all day is broadcast to each other. Reach some of them, you could find more and more.
I have spoken to many of them, the swing from die hard Leftists in a bar called Fabians to admire my anti-war, voluntary copperation etc...attitude has been very easy.
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Justin D: Alex M: Hey, you all recommend for this purpose? My neighborhood is predominantly Puerto Rican sprinkled with twenty-somethings (like myself) of diverse (but, considering NYC, most likely highly liberal) backgrounds.I'm thinking Economics in One Lesson. Any better ideas? Those sprinkles in Williamsburg could be your worst enemy and a possible explosion. Those anti-grain kids will do anything to be different from each other and more "intellectual" since their parents belssed them with free rent and time. All they do all day is broadcast to each other. Reach some of them, you could find more and more. I have spoken to many of them, the swing from die hard Leftists in a bar called Fabians to admire my anti-war, voluntary copperation etc...attitude has been very easy. [Baruch Student and Jersey(soon Manhattan) commuter right here]
Lol, yeah Bushwick / Williamsburg is a lost cause. Most of Manhatten itself may be a lost cause. It is just too "trendy", to pay attention to an uncool idea. You may have a shot in Queens though.
Any local organizations in central CT? I was thinking about starting something up, maybe try to tie it in with performance art and localvore co-op. Anyone interested?
jtucker:MIses.org's alexa rank is around 17,000 worldwide, which great and wonderful, but I would sure love to see it move consistently above 10,000. Any ideas?
Lets make a concerted effort to solicit Matt Drudge & Co. to place a permanent link to mises.org and perhaps lewrockwell.com in the lower section of drudgereport.com
I have a feeling Drudge & Co. already survey this site, so lets get them to take the next step. Their site drives the mainstream news, would be nice to get our foot in the door and would also tickle google and alexa for this site to have such a strong external link.
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Hi, I thought the first post of this thread was really good w/specific suggestions about how to promote mises, etc.
I'll add that it would help if we're precise in things the state shouldn't be involved in. How does this list grab you?
NO TAXATION FOR ZOMBIFICATION - No state money for mind control technology NO TAXATION FOR IMMOLATION - No state money memorials/"awareness-raising" re human suffering/sacrifice also, no false flag attacks or covert ops by Military/CIA NO TAXATION FOR EUNUCHIZATION - No state money for sex reassignment surgery or mandatory androgyny teachings NO TAXATION FOR COLONIZATION - No state money for territorial expansion in disputed land NO TAXATION FOR EVANGELIZATION - No state money to duplicate classic missionary work, e.g. Peace Corps, USAID, etc. NO TAXATION FOR MUTILATION - No state money for abortion, torture, circumscision any destruction of flesh
Interested in reactions,
Bob