That site's been like that for months.
I'm a Sydneysider myself. I'm not optimistic about Australia's future.
tacoface: That site's been like that for months.
It has been on the surface, but underneath we have just finished testing the site. There are several things that need to be addressed before we can launch.
The list was given to the coders today. The system is custom made, that is why it has taken quite awhile.
LewRockwell.com took a year before it was up. And I believe Mises.org was similar, if not longer.
Patience.
Hi All, Justin Jefferson here, I live near Cooma, great to see a focus for Aussie Austrians.
Congratulations to those working on the Liberty Australia site. I have been following with interest and look forward to the day it gets up.
Tacoface - I'm pretty optimistic. We've got a lot of new young Australians joining the movement thanks to Ron Paul. And many of them are very smart.
Justin - great to see you around again. I remember the days when you used to hang out at the Australian "Libertarian" Society blog.
Yes, I left there because of the aggressive hostility to me when I raised what I thought were perfectly straightforward propositions of liberty - shouldn't go around killing and torturing people who are offering you no harm.
I think the GFC has shown that it's not enough to think you are in favour of liberty, a la Milton Friedman, while still adhering to the tenets of central planning. That's why Austrianism is so important. Reminds me of the story of Mises telling the Friedmanites at the Mont Pelerin Society "You are all socialists!"
Have you finished your law degree yet?
By the way, did anyone ever tell you you have a remarkable likeness to Murray Rothbard - especially for an Indian? :-)
Nope, I've got one more year of my law degree. After that I'm doing an honours year in political science.
To bump an old thread: I'm an Austrian living in Melbourne for Uni (as you know Sukrit), but previously lived on the Sunshine Coast in QLD.
Be responsible, ease suffering; spay or neuter your pets.
We must get them to understand that government solutions are the problem!
Hi everyone, just a note to all Aussies that La.org.au has launched.
Nice site. I am a little sad we don't have something like that in Canada (that I am aware of).
good to the revolution spreading
no ones in wellington or nelson aye.o il be back in melb next year.im kiwi but we all anzacs aye
Nelson is a fun town, better than Hamilton for sure, but I still prefer Christchurch. :)
nelsons way better than chch. i recon we need 2 have secession even.new zealands to big
s burgess: nelsons way better than chch. i recon we need 2 have secession even.new zealands to big
Lol. Let's agree that anywhere is better than Wellington. :)
no way wellingtons fine all the time.better than chch.im going to canada whats good to see bo.
s burgess:no way wellingtons fine all the time.better than chch.im going to canada whats good to see bo.
I'll PM you so we don't hijack this thread anymore.
So anyone up for an Austrian meet-up in Melbourne?
"So anyone up for an Austrian meet-up in Melbourne?"
You just missed a Mises Melbourne Dinner by a few weeks! Unlucky. (There has also been a Brisbane Mises Dinner meetup which was great). I'd encourage you to PM Sukrit, who is down in Melbourne and get in contact.
I was at the last Melbourne dinner. It was a good night. We'll hopefully do another one again soon too. Feel free to PM me.
Heey kangaroo people, when will you have your Mises Institute too?
Maybe someday when there's Institutes in all English-speaking countries, we can tell that LvMI isn't the best, it's top 5 like Kinsella said! And yes you were quite lucky with your version of socialdemocracy.
Liverty Student: Jayjay:To succeed in Australia I think we need a very moderate approach...we have to start slowly. Perhaps just critiquing individual policy decisions, avoiding any mention of anarchy or even minarchy. Any kind of 'radical' thinking is sure to end the debate there and then for most Australians. My two cents. If you self-censor, you have already lost. You can present a positive, inspirational case without compromising on radicalism. In fact, that is what libertarians worldwide need to improve upon. Making radical thinking simple, digestable, enjoyable. Stake out a position, and don't move back to the middle. You will draw people to you. Unlike socialism or progressive statism, the message of liberty has real power. It explains the world and the activity of man, without making it about shame or guilt. It encourages people to be their best not their worst.
Jayjay:To succeed in Australia I think we need a very moderate approach...we have to start slowly. Perhaps just critiquing individual policy decisions, avoiding any mention of anarchy or even minarchy. Any kind of 'radical' thinking is sure to end the debate there and then for most Australians.
My two cents.
If you self-censor, you have already lost. You can present a positive, inspirational case without compromising on radicalism. In fact, that is what libertarians worldwide need to improve upon. Making radical thinking simple, digestable, enjoyable.
Stake out a position, and don't move back to the middle. You will draw people to you. Unlike socialism or progressive statism, the message of liberty has real power. It explains the world and the activity of man, without making it about shame or guilt. It encourages people to be their best not their worst.
I like the Socrates method (Mäeutik) of asking the right questions to help people testing their own beliefs and reach right conclusions their self’s. It gives them a better feeling and definitely works. But I am still not good at it, I often end up talking nonstop, and losing my vis-à-vis somewhere. At least I won't have any problem to find new people for practicing in the foreseeable future.
BTW: I am not from Australia, but from a country some Americans mistakenly believe to have Kangaroos as well. Although it is an odd thing to wish for, considering my citizenship, I’d wish we had more “Austrians” in Austria!
Ok I'm not Australian neither but I write still. I think that Ron Paul has used perfect strategy - he is as radical as possible and uses his popularity to make people interested in libertarianism rather than trying to actually change the US. He backs his opinions with constitution, which is libertarian(well, minarchist actually). This strategy could be used in other parts of the globe too - a politican(minarchist maybe), who uses some historical figure/constitution/whatever to justify his libertarianism, so people could not refute him straigthly. This won't turn the country into a stateless paradise, but will rise the number of libertarians.
Just a heads up for all Australians: there's a Mises Seminar in Sydney featuring Hans-Hermann Hoppe. Buy your tickets now and avoid missing out: http://www.mises.org.au
This is mostly just for a bump, since there really isn't anything written at this blog entry, it's just a plug (although someone might wish to leave a comment)
http://blog.mises.org/17897/mises-org-au/
Thanks JJ.
Where abouts do you reside exactly?
I reside in the US. Just figured it is good to publicize. Especially since there aren't many opportunities like this in other countries...and the rest of the world needs this exposure at least as much (if not more) than the US.
Too right. Thanks.