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Peter Sidor Posted: Wed, May 27 2009 3:08 PM

You know it. Every website, that has been around for a while tends to accumulate small problems, typos, migration issues and other ballast. Even with the best webmasters, big websites will have their imperfections hidden in odd corners, waiting to jump on unsuspecting visitors and spoil their experience.

This thread is here to collect such minor issues, so that the webmasters can attend to them, when they have time. If you find some problems, add them. Let's keep the place in shape!

 

 - The link from Mises's biography (http://mises.org/about/3248) to "Books and Essays from Mises (complete text)" doesn't work (is http://mises.org/studyguide.aspx?action=author&Id=280, should probably be http://mises.org/literature.aspx?action=author&Id=280, if there's not a list of study guides on his works or something)
 - Same page, the link to the downloadable photographs is http://mises.org/content/mises.asp#photos, #photos would be sufficient
 - The link to Bettina B. Greaves's Annotated Bibliography of Ludwig von Mises (http://mises.org/product.asp?sku=B051) should be http://www.mises.org/store/Product.aspx?ProductId=24 or http://www.mises.org/store/Product.aspx?ProductId=25 (if they aren't really the same)
 - "Who was Mises" on http://mises.org/misestributes/misesjgh.asp has an unformatted title
 - "The Story of the Lost Papers" (http://mises.org/lostpapers.asp) has some broken special characters, mostly from German umlauts ( G?tz Aly, D?sseldorf, Germany: Hans-Bl?ckler-Stiftung, Moscow?s, Beuteakten aus ?sterreich: Der ?sterreichbestand, Instituts f?r Kriegsfolgen, J?rg Guido H?lsmann, H?lsmann)
 - in the FAQ http://www.mises.org/about/3467#reprint, "every text much be treated in a special way"
 - FAQ http://www.mises.org/about/3467#other missing an LvM Institute in Brazil: http://www.mises.org.br/
  - where's the Russian one? The closest thing I could find is this: http://www.libertarium.ru/libertarium 'Moscow Libertarium' (http://www.libertarium.ru/libertarium/l_eproject)
 - the Bibliography for Frank Fetter page referred to by several pages is missing: http://www.mises.org/fetterbib.asp
 - in Rothbard's works, the "Praxeology: The Methodology of Austrian Economics" is displayed twice. Same file, same description, different 'Related' tags.
 - in the biography of A.R.J. Turgot (http://mises.org/about/3244) is a header gone wrong, close to the bottom of the page: selected="true"="true" READINGS
 - in A Scholar in Defense of Freedom (http://mises.org/content/mnrasidof.asp), misformatted header
 - The Unstoppable Rothbard (http://mises.org/article.aspx?Id=1708) a 'link' across multiple lines
 - http://mises.org/about/3241 Wilhelm Röpke (1899-1966): Humane Economist, malformatted headers; also odd bibliography
 - the RSS link in Literature and related pages under the 'Filter By' menu does not work (other RSS links work)

 - in the Literature search, it says in nice large letters how many results were found, but not what exactly was searched for. Unusual. (Okay, this is more of a change request.)

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banned replied on Wed, May 27 2009 4:39 PM

There are » symbols that break the location bar at the top of a the forum pages.

 

also, the arrows are probably the most rediculous code I've ever seen. There are 60 elements used to make the triangular shape.

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jtucker replied on Wed, May 27 2009 9:16 PM

Thank you so much!

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banned replied on Wed, May 27 2009 11:52 PM

Sorry, did you write it?

I really can't see the point in using 60 elements where a 15x60 px .png image would accomplish the same thing and only take up 1 line of code.

(Dunno if you were being sarcastic :/)

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jtucker:

Thank you so much!

More work for you!  Smile

 

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There are » symbols that break the location bar at the top of a the forum pages.

 

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also, the arrows are probably the most rediculous code I've ever seen. There are 60 elements used to make the triangular shape.

I'm not quite sure that is right.  It looks like boilerplate template code for the breadcrumbs but for some reason the CSS is inline (the elements) instead of in the css file.

It's about 23,434 characters long right now.  Which is about 22.8kb.  Quite a bit of page bloat.  Probably not good for SEO either, because some of the search engines only index the first 80,000 or so characters.

I agree, it could be done in plain text (attractively enough) or using background images to maintain the current look.  Probably cut that down to approx 1,000 chars.    That's about 1.1 KB.  But then if you use images, you will have to add them in, although they will be cached if I recall correctly.

So potential savings of around 15 to 18 kb per community page load.  Rough guesstimate if the community loads 250,000 times per month, that's... 3.75gb of bandwidth.  I imagine the community probably gets closer to a million page loads a month, but then the blogs don't use the same breadcrumb template.

Another upside is a lower server load per connection and faster browser render times.

Now who will code up some nice CSS breadcrumbs that are lightweight for HeroicLife? Big Smile  I don't do design anymore.

@Jeff, there is a problem with this Tom Woods video.  It is only about 30 MB.  The other ones were all over 100MB.  When I play it, it just cuts off around 15 minutes in or so.  It's #10 in the lecture series.

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banned replied on Thu, May 28 2009 2:56 AM

Actually, I see the reason it's like that now. In order for the arrow point to be nested within another arrow and also work alone (represent a current location on the forum), each segment needs to be seperate. To fix this, I'm pretty sure the whole template would need to be changed.

 

EDIT: Actually I'm pretty sure this is possible.

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Don't want to start a riot or anything, but wouldn't be the simplest solution to just cut the tiny symbols with 20+kB size out? :)

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eliotn replied on Thu, May 28 2009 5:26 PM

I noticed that on some browsers, it does, well, this:

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Peter Sidor:

Don't want to start a riot or anything, but wouldn't be the simplest solution to just cut the tiny symbols with 20+kB size out? :)

It's page code that is so big.  The background (blue parts) and white arrow parts are all generated pixel by pixel.  It is a very sloppy way to do that.

I cut down the code to this

<div class="CustomBreadCrumbArea">
<div class="Common">
<a href="/Community/forums/">
<div class="BreadCrumbItem" style="background-color: rgb(50, 120, 185); float: left;">Forums</div>
</a> » <a href="/Community/forums/default.aspx?GroupID=10">
<div class="BreadCrumbItem" style="background-color: rgb(45, 108, 167); float: left;">About</div>
</a> » <a href="/Community/forums/28.aspx">
<div class="BreadCrumbItem" style="background-color: rgb(41, 98, 151); float: left;">Help and Support</div>
</a> » <a href="/Community/forums/t/8098.aspx">
<div class="BreadCrumbItem" style="background-color: rgb(37, 89, 136); float: left;">Minor Website Issues</div>
</a>
</div>
</div>

Which looks like this

 

With a little bit of styling, that could be cleaned up.  Anyone who knows CSS could pad the different links, and add a colour change on mouse hover, and that would probably do.

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banned replied on Thu, May 28 2009 6:32 PM

It loads a different style for BreadCrumbArrow when it is showing the current location. The segments that would be the tail of another arrow are made white. You don't have to remove the whole element, you just have to make it load a different image when it is showing the current forum location, and since there's already something in place that will alter the element when it's on the current location, this wouldn't be hard to impliment.

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Conza88 replied on Sun, May 31 2009 10:03 PM

When I view my favorite posts, it says I have 9 items. But it only ever displays 3.

http://mises.org/Community/members/Conza88/favorites/default.aspx

 

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fezwhatley replied on Sun, May 31 2009 10:26 PM

a couple complaints:

-When you are on the home page of mises.org, and try to view your profile, it links to a ridiculous condensed profile listing your user tags.

-the intra site search engine in the mises community suckkks

-want the option to change your email address

-some issues with numbering pages on discussion threads

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fezwhatley:
-When you are on the home page of mises.org, and try to view your profile, it links to a ridiculous condensed profile listing your user tags.

The front of the site and the community are two different sets of software which is why you have different profile listings with the common login.

As some Russian developers I used to work with would say, "This is not a bug, this is a feature."

fezwhatley:
-the intra site search engine in the mises community suckkks

Indeed.  That is a community server (software) issue.  It's not something simple to fix.  Community Server IMO is the best and worst piece of software ever.  But they will improve it eventually.  In the meanwhile, you can use this for google searches.

Put this in the google search

SEARCH TERM HERE site:mises.org/Community/forums/

If you want to search the whole community,

SEARCH TERM HERE site:mises.org/Community/

hth

fezwhatley:
-want the option to change your email address

 

 

fezwhatley:
-some issues with numbering pages on discussion threads

I don't know what that means.

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thanks for the tips, cant believe i missed itBig Smile

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The front of the site and the community are two different sets of software which is why you have different profile listings with the common login.

Is that the reason why I am only logged into the 'community' and not the 'site'? I tried to log in to the site as well, but don't get any text fields to do so (funnily enough, I am shown there as logged in). Should I join on the main site with the same username, or???

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To add something constructive:

 - the notes in Hayek's bio (http://mises.org/about/3234) link to another page
 - http://mises.org/tradcycl/econdepr.asp - many '-'s turned into '?'s
 - in Fun (http://mises.org/content/fun.asp), the link to the Money song is broken - but you can have the whole video from the Python's themselves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sor9GzivGbk

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Peter Sidor:
Is that the reason why I am only logged into the 'community' and not the 'site'? I tried to log in to the site as well, but don't get any text fields to do so (funnily enough, I am shown there as logged in). Should I join on the main site with the same username, or???

Your login should be persistent.  I am logged into both right now.  Most of my comments in this thread are from observation and I know some stuff about the web.  I don't actually know how the bridge between the main site and the community is constructed.

If you are still not logged into the front end, then I would completely log out, login to the front end, then enter the community and see if that works.  It just occurred to me that might be it.

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Conza88 replied on Tue, Jun 2 2009 6:36 AM

The end of this article.

http://mises.org/story/2801

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Arvin replied on Tue, Jun 2 2009 12:22 PM

In the "media section" some of the author names do not show up in the drop-down.

like this:

 

I sent an email to the webmaster earlier but got no reply.

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alerty replied on Tue, Jun 2 2009 5:39 PM

When you open the mises.org website, at the right side of the site, where there is:  Mises Blog / User Blogs / Forums , and you try to click at "Forums", the page is finishing loading and it moves and you accidentally click at  "forums rss".

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Arvin replied on Tue, Jun 2 2009 6:43 PM

Am I the only one still waiting for a "I can't get to the forum" post? Would be classic.

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liberty student:
Your login should be persistent.  I am logged into both right now.  Most of my comments in this thread are from observation and I know some stuff about the web.  I don't actually know how the bridge between the main site and the community is constructed.

If you are still not logged into the front end, then I would completely log out, login to the front end, then enter the community and see if that works.  It just occurred to me that might be it.

Weird. Now that I have complained of it, I find myself logged both into the main site and community (still not logged into the Blog, duh). Better!

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Conza88 replied on Wed, Jun 10 2009 11:02 AM

Rothbard Speaks:
Audio Clips and Tapes from
Lectures of Murray N. Rothbard

EDITED BY WENDY MCELROY

(These short clips are just the beginning. Full MP3 files of full Rothbard lectures available at the Mises Institute Audio Library. In particular, Rothbard teaches a full course in economics. Feel free to download and burn CDs for your own or classroom use.)

http://mises.org/rothspeak/murray.asp

None of the links work Sad

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The Jens Parsson Book, Dying of Money, is no long on your site. What gives? Out of print and an amazing book.

It was here: http://mises.org/web/4017

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Sukrit replied on Sun, Jun 21 2009 5:47 AM

http://mises.org/fellow.aspx?Id=23

If you click the link to "Daily Articles" from Tom Wood's page, it doesn't work... nothing shows up for me.

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right the author id should be 424.

http://mises.org/articles.aspx?AuthorId=424

and not 804 as it is on that page...

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Conza88 replied on Mon, Jun 29 2009 7:48 AM

Kind of major...


Mises Chat....... Indifferent

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Conza88:

Kind of major...


Mises Chat....... Indifferent

Yeah, I always yo use the alternate link. Might as well make the alternate link the main link.

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Saving favorites are not being brought back to my "Shared Favorites".  I go to browse them on my personal avatar page and the newer ones are not coming up.  So it used to bring them there, but isn't anymore.  Yet when I go back to the post that I saved as a favorite it still is checked off saying it is a favorite that I've saved.

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Conza88 replied on Sun, Jul 12 2009 4:51 AM

http://www.mises.org/rothspeak/murray.asp

All that needs to be changed is for each link...

remove the mm. and replace with www.

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jdmnz replied on Wed, Sep 16 2009 4:57 AM

Hi berrygraham, yes I was just about to read for the 3rd time and cant find it on the site. You can read about 4 pages of it with a quick trip thru google search, Ill try to find the link again but thats it. Its a good read especially in these troubled times. 

Ive checked ebay and the only copy for sale was $699!

Second hand ones are on Amazon but I cant use their pigs breakfast of a site being an international buyer.

By the way berrygraham, I know a Graham Berry in NZ, are you any connection?

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Conza88 replied on Sat, Sep 26 2009 7:17 AM

The mises icon? has got a black background behind the mises shield.

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Conza means the Mises favicon.  The community Favicon has a white background, the site proper has a black background.

I've created a new favicon that has transparency, so it could be used on the main site, and in the community.

Here is a comparison of the two.  Current on the left, newer version on the right.

HeroicLife, if you want to download it, you can get it here

http://notreason.com/favicon.ico

I will leave it on my site for a couple weeks, until you tell me you have downloaded it, or until you tell me you have no use for it.

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When I download the data from the economic data page (http://mises.org/content/nofed/chart.aspx?series=TMS), the column labels do not match the data.  The labels are ordered TMS-MZM-M1-M2-M3 but the data are ordered M1-M2-M3-MZM-TMS.

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A few more:

 - http://mises.org/story/3100 - broken link (http://mises.org/story/%3Ca%20href=%22http://mises.org/story/2205%22%3E)
 - 2nd level headers smaller than the text: http://mises.org/etexts/mises/critique/section5.asp and http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=281
 - tiny quotes in: http://mises.org/rothbard/salernointro.asp
 - Mises Store: if you click on the Buy button on something in your Wishlist, the item is deleted from the it. That is fine, but not very practical, if the item in question happens to be out of stock (like that darn Executive Coffee Mug!). The Wishlist entry is in that case lost.
 - speaking of, it would be great, if the status of 'Out of Stock' would be shown with an item!

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Conza88 replied on Thu, Oct 1 2009 7:25 PM

Btw, THANKS for whoever fixes this up. Those Rothbard message links are sorted. Smile

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Conza88:

Btw, THANKS for whoever fixes this up. Those Rothbard message links are sorted. Smile

Yeah, keep at the good work! (By the way, if you want to use this thread as a list and strike out things already fixed, feel free!)

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In the index of Human Action, Chapter XXXVII should be probably placed into Part Seven. Gotta keep those classics sorted.

 

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Conza88 replied on Sun, Oct 11 2009 11:19 AM

The "reply" button on the left has disappeared, and half of the "more" button has been cut in half.

They went invisible... but oddly enough, I can still guess & click them, to post and edit.

Anyone else getting this?

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It's just you.  If you are on windows, reload the page by typing CTRL+F5.

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