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ivanfoofoo Posted: Sat, Jul 11 2009 1:37 PM

I would like to make something like a survey for all of you, regarding certain issues that we're not in complete agreement with. The idea is to make a short answer for each item (preferably, a 'yes' or 'no', as you agree or disagree). Here's my try:

  • Anarchism: Yes
  • Praxeology: Yes
  • Natural rights: No
  • ABCT: Yes
  • Corporations: No
  • Death penalty: No (not definitive)
  • Abortion: Yes (not definitive)
  • Democracy: No
  • Objectivism: No
  • Psycological egoism: Yes
  • Ethical egoism: Yes
  • 100% FRB: Yes
  • Slave contracts: No

Well, that's what I got so far.

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  • Anarchism: Yes
  • Praxeology: Yes
  • Natural rights: Yes; separated from a belief in God, no
  • ABCT: Yes
  • Corporations: Yes
  • Death penalty: Yes
  • Abortion: No
  • Democracy: No
  • Objectivism: No
  • Psycological egoism: No
  • Ethical egoism: No
  • 100% FRB: Yes
  • Religion: Roman Catholic

That's mine. Can you explain the 'no' on the death penalty?

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  • Anarchism: Don't care, don't believe it will ever happen
  • Praxeology: Yes
  • Natural Rights: Only defined with respect to a Creator
  • ABCT: Yes
  • Corporations: Yes
  • Death Penalty: No Definitive Opinion
  • Abortion: No
  • Democracy: Modern democracy: no; democracy as defined in Pericles' funeral oration: yes
  • Objectivism: No
  • Psycological Egoism: no
  • Religion: Yes
  • 100% FRB: No Definitive Opinion

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wombatron replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 1:52 PM

This should be fun Stick out tongue

  • Anarchism: Yes
  • Praxeology: Yes
  • Natural rights: Yes
  • ABCT: Yes
  • Corporations: No (the corporate form can be probably be replicated in a freed market, but current corporations: no)
  • Death penalty: No
  • Abortion: Yes
  • Democracy: Yes (in the sense of participatory democracy defended by the New Left, Rothbard, and Plauche)
  • Objectivism: No (well, I guess I'm a post-Objectivist/neo-Aristotelian, but definitely not an orthodox Randroid)
  • Psycological egoism: Either a truism or wrong, IMO
  • Ethical egoism: Kind of (eudaimonist)
  • 100% FRB: Yes

 

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  • Anarchism: Yes
  • Praxeology: Yes
  • Natural rights: Yes (though not the Rothbardian rationalist conception)
  • ABCT: Yes
  • Corporations: What does this mean?
  • Death penalty: Yes
  • Abortion: Yes
  • Democracy: No
  • Objectivism: No
  • Psychological egoism: What does this mean?
  • Ethical egoism: No
  • 100% FRB: I know what FRB stands for, but not what the 100% means.
  • "the obligation to justice is founded entirely on the interests of society, which require mutual abstinence from property" -David Hume
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    Juan replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 2:05 PM
    what about 'corporations' ? yes no what ?

    February 17 - 1600 - Giordano Bruno is burnt alive by the catholic church.
    Aquinas : "much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to death."

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     FYI, I use N/A to specify areas where I do not feel qualified to say whether I agree with it fully or not.  It would help if the list included definitions to base one's Yes or No on.  

    • Anarchism: Yes.  (Panarchism as consolation, if Anarchism doesn't occur in my lifetime).
    • Praxeology: Undecided 
    • Natural rights: Undecided (leaning 'No')
    • ABCT: N/A
    • Corporations: Yes (In favor of market alternatives to statist-corptocracy)
    • Death penalty: Maybe (self-defense may unavoidably result in the death of an aggressor, etc.)
    • Abortion: Indifferent
    • Democracy: No
    • Objectivism: No, on the whole (This & Post-Objectivism have proven educational, though)
    • Psycological egoism: Undecided
    • Ethical egoism: Undecided
    • 100% FRB: Undecided (I would prefer competing banking systems)
    • Irreligion: Ignostic

     

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    fakename replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 2:56 PM
  • Anarchism: Undecided
  • Praxeology: Yes
  • Natural rights: NA
  • ABCT: Yes
  • Corporations: Yes (if not state backed) 
  • Death penalty: No (due to state enforcement) 
  • Abortion: No
  • Democracy: No
  • Objectivism: No
  • Psycological egoism: NA
  • Ethical egoism: No
  • 100% FRB: Yes (shouldn't this be 100% reserve banking?) 
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    Pablo replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 3:01 PM
    • Anarchism: Yes
    • Praxeology: Yes
    • Natural rights: No
    • ABCT: Yes
    • Corporations: No
    • Death penalty: Yes (Dependent on each individuals property laws)
    • Abortion: Yes (not definitive)
    • Democracy: No
    • Objectivism: No
    • Psycological egoism: Yes
    • Ethical egoism: Yes
    • 100% FRB: No (I disagree with bank regulation. I will personally choose a 100% Reserve Bank.)
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    ladyattis replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 3:02 PM

    Okay, here's my list:

    • Anarchism: Yes
    • Praxeology: Yes
    • Natural rights: Yes
    • ABCT: Yes
    • Corporations: No
    • Death penalty: No
    • Abortion: No
    • Democracy: No
    • Objectivism: Yes
    • Psycological egoism: No
    • Ethical egoism: Yes
    • 100% FRB: No

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    John Ess replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 3:12 PM
    • Anarchism: Yes
    • Praxeology: Yes
    • Natural rights: No
    • ABCT: Yes
    • Corporations: No
    • Death penalty: No
    • Abortion: No
    • Democracy: No
    • Objectivism: No
    • Psycological egoism: Yes
    • Ethical egoism: No
    • 100% FRB: Yes
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    Juan replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 3:18 PM
    • Anarchism: Yes
    • Praxeology: Yes
    • Natural rights: Yes
    • ABCT: Yes
    • Corporations: ??
    • Death penalty: probably not
    • Abortion: Yes
    • Democracy: No
    • Objectivism: No
    • Psycological egoism: Yes (?)
    • Ethical egoism: Yes (?)
    • 100% FRB: full reserve banking ? yes
    • religion : agnostic
    • slave contracts : no

    February 17 - 1600 - Giordano Bruno is burnt alive by the catholic church.
    Aquinas : "much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to death."

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    I know that the idea of answering 'yes' or 'no' or something short is not the best (one can agree the ABCT explained by X, but not the Y interpretation, or one can favor corporations, but on certain industries/cases, etc), but the idea is to have an approach of the member's opinions, and not writing an article for each of the points (in fact, each point is and certainly was discussed in other threads).

    For "corporations" what I mean is if you like the corporation concept, as an independent entity and separated from its members.

    For 100% FRB I mean 100% fractional reserve backing (or full reserve banking, or whatever you want to call it), such as Rothbard, Block and Hoppe are for. I didn't ask for free-banking because I think everyone here is for free-banking.

    My death penalty answer is No, but is not definitive. Maybe I'm not for death penalty as a state-backed policy, but don't know how the free market would handle it.

    Let's continue! :P

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    ivanfoofoo:
    For 100% FRB I mean 100% fractional reserve backing (or full reserve banking, or whatever you want to call it), such as Rothbard, Block and Hoppe are for.

    Okay, that was confusing because I thought it might mean, "all FRB, all the time."  "100% fractional" seems a contradiction in terms.  I'd suggest changing the OP to "100% reserve banking", or "FRB is fraud"

    "the obligation to justice is founded entirely on the interests of society, which require mutual abstinence from property" -David Hume
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    Juan replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 3:47 PM
    so called slave contracts ? : no.

    February 17 - 1600 - Giordano Bruno is burnt alive by the catholic church.
    Aquinas : "much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to death."

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    zefreak replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 4:12 PM

    Heres my take

    • Anarchism: Yes
    • Praxeology: Yes
    • Natural rights: No
    • ABCT: Yes
    • Corporations: No
    • Death penalty: Yes
    • Abortion: Yes
    • Democracy: No
    • Objectivism: No
    • Psycological egoism: Yes
    • Ethical egoism: Yes
    • 100% FRB: Free currency, FRB may exist

     

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    nice topic

    • Anarchism: yes
    • Praxeology: yes
    • Natural rights: yes
    • ABCT: yes
    • Corporations: yes
    • Death penalty: don't oppose in principle, oppose the socialist criminal justice system
    • Abortion: yes
    • Democracy: No
    • Objectivism: yes, i don't think its harmful
    • Psycological egoism: no
    • Ethical egoism: no
    • 100% FRB: ya

    do we get free cheezeburger in socielism?

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  • Anarchism: Yes
  • Praxeology: Yes
  • Natural rights: No
  • ABCT: Yes
  • Corporations: Yes
  • Death penalty: Don't care 
  • Abortion: Don't care
  • Democracy: No
  • Objectivism: No
  • Psycological egoism: Yes
  • Ethical egoism: No
  • 100% FRB: Yes
  • "Anticapitalist theories share in common an inability to take human nature as it is. Rather than analyzing man as a complex creature, anticapitalist theories tend to focus on what the theorist wishes man to be." - Isaac Morehouse

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    • Anarchism: Yes
    • Praxeology: Yes
    • Natural rights: Yes
    • ABCT: Yes
    • Corporations: Yes
    • Death penalty: No 
    • Abortion: Yes 
    • Democracy: No
    • Objectivism: small-o
    • Psycological egoism: Mostly
    • Ethical egoism: Mostly
    • 100% FRB: No
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    • Voluntaryism: Yes
    • Coercion: No
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    majevska replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 6:19 PM

    Hopefully my non y/n answers aren't to annoying/unclear.

    • Anarchism: to a large extent
    • Praxeology: Yes
    • Natural rights: No
    • ABCT: mostly
    • Corporations: yeah sure why not
    • Death penalty: to some extent
    • Abortion: Yes
    • Democracy: No
    • Objectivism: No
    • Psycological egoism: not quite
    • Ethical egoism: No
    • 100% FRB: not necessarily
    • Worldwide policy of strangling all girl-babies to death at birth: Yes

     

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    Bostwick replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 8:06 PM
  • Anarchism: Yes
  • Praxeology: Yes
  • Natural rights: Yes
  • ABCT: Yes
  • Corporations: Yes
  • Death penalty:
  • Abortion: No
  • Democracy: No
  • Objectivism: No
  • Psycological egoism: Yes
  • Ethical egoism: Yes
  • 100% FRB: Yes
  •  

     

    Peace

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    Nielsio replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 8:09 PM

    Tyrannicidal Epicurean:

    • Voluntaryism: Yes
    • Coercion: No

     

    Scientific method: Yes [1]

    [1] -> Theological Noncognitivism: Yes -> God: No

    [1] -> Praxeology: Yes

    Moral agency theory: Yes -> Abortion: Yes

    Homesteading/First appropriation principles: Yes -> Negative rights: Yes [2], Positive rights: No

    [2] -> Anarchism: Yes

    [2] -> Punishment doctrine: No -> Prison sentences: No, Voluntary debt work-camps: Yes, Voluntary rehabilitation: Yes, Exile: Yes, Death sentence in case of no more voluntary funds or participants to restrain: Yes

    [2] -> Free market money and banking: Yes

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    Esuric replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 8:19 PM
    • Anarchism: Yes
    • Praxeology: Yes
    • Natural rights: Yes
    • ABCT: Yes
    • Corporations: Yes (what does this mean exactly?)
    • Death penalty: No
    • Abortion: No
    • Democracy: Maybe
    • Objectivism: Yes
    • Psycological egoism: Yes
    • Ethical egoism: Yes
    • 100% FRB: Yes

    "If we wish to preserve a free society, it is essential that we recognize that the desirability of a particular object is not sufficient justification for the use of coercion."

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    Praetyre replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 9:07 PM
    • Anarchism: No (Though, that term actually has multiple meanings to me, none of which I am an adherent of)
    • Praxeology: Yes
    • Natural rights: Yes
    • ABCT: Yes
    • Corporations: Yes (Like any other business, they should not receive government benefits, but incorporated for-profit entities with LL contracts is fine)
    • Death penalty: Undecided
    • Abortion: No
    • Democracy: No (Kind of vague, though. I think a democratic method of electing leaders of a minarchy could work, but total democracy would be a hell)
    • Objectivism: Yes
    • Psychological egoism: Mostly
    • Ethical egoism: Mildly
    • 100% FRB: What do you mean?
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    Zavoi replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 9:22 PM
  • Anarchism: Yes
  • Praxeology: (Haven't read enough to be sure)
  • Natural rights: Yes
  • ABCT: Yes
  • Corporations: Yes
  • Death penalty: Yes
  • Abortion: Yes (although I may be convinced otherwise)
  • Democracy: Yes (voluntarily)
  • Objectivism: No
  • Psychological egoism: No (Again, may be convinced)
  • Ethical egoism: No
  • 100% FRB: No
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    • Anarchism: Yes
    • Praxeology: No
    • Natural rights: No
    • ABCT: Somewhat
    • Corporations: Yes
    • Death penalty: Yes
    • Abortion: Yes 
    • Democracy: No
    • Objectivism: No
    • Psycological egoism: Yes
    • Ethical egoism: No
    • 100% FRB: No, Fractional Reserve Banking

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    • Anarchism: Yes
    • Praxeology: Yes
    • Natural rights: Ambivalent (prefer negative demonstrations/epistemological approaches)
    • ABCT: Yes
    • Corporations: Indifferent
    • Death penalty: No 
    • Abortion: Yes 
    • Democracy: No
    • Objectivism: Post-objectivist
    • Psycological egoism: Yes
    • Ethical egoism: Yes
    • 100% FRB: No

    Freedom of markets is positively correlated with the degree of evolution in any society...

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    Conza88 replied on Sat, Jul 11 2009 10:16 PM

    Just thought it was worth pointing out... this is a trolls wet dream. Make of it what you will. lol

    Ron Paul is for self-government when compared to the Constitution. He's an anarcho-capitalist. Proof.
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    • Anarchism: Yes
    • Praxeology: Yes
    • Natural rights: Yes
    • ABCT: Yes
    • Corporations: Yes
    • Death penalty: Yes
    • Abortion: No
    • Democracy: No
    • Objectivism: in some ways, but not all.
    • Psychological egoism: Yes
    • Ethical egoism: No
    • 100% FRB: No (at least not coercively)
    • Religion: Christianity

    I inserted religion since others have done the same.

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    Spideynw replied on Sun, Jul 12 2009 12:03 AM
  • Anarchism: No
  • Government without consent of the governed: No
  • Taxation without representation: No
  • Praxeology: Yes
  • Natural rights: No
  • ABCT: Yes
  • Corporations: Yes and No
  • Death penalty: No
  • Abortion: Yes
  • Democracy: 100% democracy, yes
  • Objectivism: No
  • Psycological egoism: Yes
  • Ethical egoism: No
  • 100% Reserve Banking: Yes
  • At most, I think only 5% of the adult population would need to stop cooperating to have real change.

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  • Anarchism: Yes
  • Praxeology: Yes
  • Natural rights: Yes (But without the creator/divine mentality which disproves natural rights)
  • ABCT: Yes
  • Corporations: N/A (Ambiguous)
  • Death penalty: Only in restraining an individual
  • Abortion: Yes
  • Democracy: No
  • Objectivism: No
  • Psycological egoism: Yes
  • Ethical egoism: Yes
  • 100% FRB: Yes
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    * Anarchism: Yes

    * Praxeology: Yes

    * Natural rights: No

    * ABCT: Yes

    * Corporations: Yes

    * Death penalty: Only under contract.  People who refuse contracts in a free society could just be kept out of civilized areas.

    * Abortion: Yes

    * Democracy: voluntary democracies would be fine as long as they leave me alone

    * Objectivism: No

    * Psycological egoism: Yes

    * Ethical egoism: Yes

    * 100% reserves: voluntary FRB (no legal tender laws)

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    Solomon replied on Sun, Jul 12 2009 2:42 AM
    • Anarchism: yes
    • Praxeology: yes
    • Natural rights: no
    • ABCT: yes
    • Corporations: yes (in general)
    • Death penalty: indifferent
    • Abortion: indifferent
    • Democracy: no
    • Objectivism: no
    • Psycological egoism: yes
    • Ethical egoism: I would not describe the egoism that I espouse as "ethical"
    • 100% FRB: yes (in general)

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    Pablo replied on Sun, Jul 12 2009 3:37 AM

    Spideynw:

  • Government with consent of all the governed: Yes
  • Taxation only with actual representation: Yes
  • VoluntaryGov.com- I haven't updated it in a while, but go ahead and check it out.

     

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    • Anarchism: Yes
    • Praxeology: Yes
    • Natural rights: Only in a theistic context
    • ABCT: Yes
    • Corporations: Yes, but not supporting a lot of ones in existence
    • Death penalty: Yes
    • Abortion: No, evictionism yes
    • Democracy: No
    • Objectivism: No
    • Psycological egoism: Sort of
    • Ethical egoism: No
    • 100% FRB: Yes, and the prohibition of borrowing short and lending long
    • Slave contracts: Yes
    • Religion- Christian

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    Fried Egg replied on Mon, Jul 13 2009 4:42 AM
    • Anarchism: no (minachist)
    • Praxeology: Yes (although not necessary to the exclusion of any other methodolgoical approach)
    • Natural rights: Unsure.
    • ABCT: Yes (although again not necessary to the exclusion of any other explanatory theory)
    • Corporations: No.
    • Death penalty: Unsure.
    • Abortion: Yes.
    • Democracy: Yes.
    • Objectivism: No.
    • Psycological egoism: Yes.
    • Ethical egoism: No. (the above renders this moot).
    • 100% FRB: No (I favour free banking).
    • Slave contracts: No.
    • Religion: Athiest
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    banned replied on Mon, Jul 13 2009 7:31 AM
  • Anarchism: Y
  • Praxeology: Y
  • Natural rights: N
  • ABCT: Y
  • Corporations: depends what is meant
  • Death penalty: depends what is meant
  • Abortion: depends what is meant
  • Democracy: N
  • Objectivism: N
  • Psycological egoism: somewhat
  • Ethical egoism: N
  • 100% FRB: N
  • Slave contracts: N
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  • Anarchism: Yes, but some interpretations of anarcho-capitalism reduce to minarchism at best, and many contemporary anarcho-communists aren't  really anarchists either (anarcho-balance ftw)
  • Praxeology: Yes, but not the psychologism that some derive from it
  • Natural rights: Yes, but not based on traditional tautological/circular libertarian arguments 
  • ABCT: Yes
  • Corporations: No
  • Death penalty: No
  • Abortion: Yes
  • Democracy: No
  • Objectivism: No
  • Psycological egoism: Yes, but not pessemistic versions 
  • Ethical egoism: Yes, but not Rand's version 
  • 100% FRB: Not preferable, only if not fraudulent
  • Slave contracts: No, Walter Block is simply wrong 
  • Religion: Athiest, of theological noncognitivist variety
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    Spideynw replied on Mon, Jul 13 2009 10:57 AM

    ivanfoofoo:
    Corporations: No

    I wanted to change my answer to No on corporations.

    At most, I think only 5% of the adult population would need to stop cooperating to have real change.

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