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Parasites ensure your survivial

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AJ replied on Wed, Jul 22 2009 3:38 PM

Hermes on the day of your death:
YYes, the rich man could have given me a scholarship... but he didnt. Despite my consistently high test scores I have not the penchant for homework and good grades. There was no scholarship for my type (smart and goal-oriented, but with little drive). Becuase its too high of a chance that my type will [not?] succeed = unprofitable. Free market doesnt provide for that which isnt profitable.

Hermes hits the nail on the head (his own!). Only the government would fund something likely to be unprofitable, hence making society poorer. You, as a beneficiary of that policy, may end up being profitable anyway, but so what? Just because I may win the jackpot doesn't make casino gambling a good investment.

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Anarchist Cain:
Hermes likes to come in from time to time and 'wow' us with his 'deductive logic.'

He happily avoids me...

 

I am anti-social, I can provide for myself without his precious parasites....

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Anarchist Cain:
Hermes likes to come in from time to time and 'wow' us with his 'deductive logic.'

 

I remember my first beer, too. Beer

 

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Nitroadict:
I remember my first beer, too. Beer

That one is a little fuzzy, I think it had to do with the rest after it....

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replied on Wed, Jul 22 2009 6:12 PM

sry. i got quick banned. sometimes i get crass and overtsep my bounds... my apologies

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replied on Wed, Jul 22 2009 6:35 PM

What did I avoid? I like comic books and shaking keys? lol

Yes, I get it. This is a private forum. And you have the right to ban me. Yet it is no less ironic that someone calling themselves a student of liberty would ban anyone at anytime; but this time i understand y so. no worries. just surprised it opened back up.

but were diverging fro the point. There are certain necessary things that are not profitable, and that were not, and will not be provided by any "free" market system. If you were to do these things, the resulting general prosperity would and has lifted the situation of the society as a whole (these things we call Golden Ages, etc).

Like a football game, if you want to play, you have to play by the rules. (to paraphrase, i think, thom hartman)

The only possible way i can see your system working is if we do what Jefferson said and ban inheritance; but i dont c anyone jumping at that solution either....

I must go tho. perhaps I will be able to respond at a later hour.

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MatthewF replied on Wed, Jul 22 2009 6:52 PM

Hermes on the day of your death:
I get it. This is a private forum. And you have the right to ban me. Yet it is no less ironic that someone calling themselves a student of liberty would ban anyone at anytime

As a fellow "student of liberty" my understanding of the nature of liberty doesn't mean that there aren't any rules, simply that there aren't any rulers.

 

Hermes on the day of your death:
There are certain necessary things that are not profitable, and that were not, and will not be provided by any "free" market system.

Name one.

Hermes on the day of your death:
Like a football game, if you want to play, you have to play by the rules.

Or just have the government change the rules you don't like?

 

Hermes on the day of your death:
The only possible way i can see your system working is if we do what Jefferson said and ban inheritance

Why?

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but were diverging fro the point. There are certain necessary things that are not profitable, and that were not, and will not be provided by any "free" market system. If you were to do these things, the resulting general prosperity would and has lifted the situation of the society as a whole (these things we call Golden Ages, etc).

 

Thats true in the loose (nonmonetary) sense of profit. People help old ladies across the road not because they get money from it, but because it gives them a subjective, internal profit. The reason you choose to make a particular choice over  an infinite number of alternatives is because in your subjective perception of the world, that choice is most "profitable". Now, you might be wrong, due to information barriers and such, but the market works to correct that sort of thing.

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That's all. A simple scientific fact; I just want to hear your philosophical response.

If the parasite proves destructive of the organism's well-being, its removal is mandatory... and guess which parasite is just so...

You're not very intelligent, are you?

 

Freedom of markets is positively correlated with the degree of evolution in any society...

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Pablo replied on Wed, Jul 22 2009 10:54 PM

Hermes on the day of your death:

Rich man owns a bank and is forced to pay taxes to pay for the food, roads, and schoooling of a poor child, whos parents work hard and just cant get ahead yet.  Eventually it pays off and this family get a little ahead, sending their children to college (which is also payed by the rich banker). Man gets out of undergrad and while preparing for law school, opens a business inspecting the holdings of various banks to ensure theyre in good standing. This information allows the banker to better manage his assets and increase profitability.

Not only a symbiote w government, but also w the rich folk who funded it.... hmm imagine that

So the poor/middle class person is benefiting by the artificially high prices caused by government monopoly/regulations of roads, schools, food, housing, zoning, car emissions, imported goods, subsidies etc, etc, etc? They also benefit from the taxes which trickle down from every sector of the entire economy to be paid by those who purchase the goods for consumption? That makes great sense.

The productive rich get to higher those great asset managers from the crappy schools they were forced to fund. Clearly, everyone is so much better off. Lets go dig some holes, hide money in the bottoms, fill it with dirt, then higher mining companies to dig it back out! We'll be rich!

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ama gi replied on Thu, Jul 23 2009 12:30 AM

Hermes on the day of your death:

That's all. A simple scientific fact; I just want to hear your philosophical response.

 

So, you're asking us to look at a scientific fact, and then analyze it using preconceived philosophies and ideologies?

What a silly question.  A "simple scientific fact" is not open to a "philosophical response".  Facts leave no room for interpretation, and they leave no room for criticism.

They're just facts.

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ama gi:

Hermes on the day of your death:

That's all. A simple scientific fact; I just want to hear your philosophical response.

 

So, you're asking us to look at a scientific fact, and then analyze it using preconceived philosophies and ideologies?

What a silly question.  A "simple scientific fact" is not open to a "philosophical response".  Facts leave no room for interpretation, and they leave no room for criticism.

They're just facts.

CAREFUL he may take that as admission that you agree with him....

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