Can anyone provide concrete details on Ron Paul's military service?
He was a medical officer for the air force.
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During Vietnam no less.
(aside: can you imagine being a medic during Vietnam? No wonder he hates war so much.)
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Pretty sure he wasn't in theatre.
Yea, he was in the middle east during Vietnam
I'm sure he heard no stories from his peer medics.
Concrete details, anyone?
Paul served in the United States Air Force as a flight surgeon for several years (1963-1965). While in the air force, Paul reached the rank of Captain. Directly after his service in the air force, Paul worked again as a flight surgeon for the United States Air National Guard (1965-1968).
http://www.pabook.libraries.psu.edu/palitmap/bios/Paul__Ronald.html
If you want proof from a direct governmental source, go to the link below and you can make a military service record request.
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/
http://www.recordsbase.com is another resource. Or you could, you know, do your own research.
Egon: Concrete details, anyone?
He wore a uniform, including a hat.
What exactly are you looking for?
He also had a brown uniform. (And a navy blue hat. And red bike. And a kid.)
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Is that Rand in the picture with him?
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Records are accessioned into the National Archives, and become archival, 62 years after the service member's separation from the military. This is a rolling date; hence, the current year, 2012, minus 62 years is 1950. Records with a discharge date of 1950 or prior are archival and are open to the public. Records with a discharge date of 1950 or after are non-archival and are maintained under the Federal Records Center program. Non-archival records are subject to access restrictions.
You can't get to Pauls records, only he can release them and he won't ...
Why won't he release them?
asjr123:You can't get to Pauls records, only he can release them and he won't ...
Uh. Bullshit. But thanks for not including any links to your source so that people would have to take the extra step of copying your quoted text into a search engine just to prove you wrong. Let's continue with the quoting shall we?
Without the consent of the veteran or next-of-kin, the National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) can only release limited information from the Official Military Personnel File (OMPF) to the general public. You are considered a member of the general public if you are not the veteran, asking about a veteran who is of no relation to you or seeking information about a veteran who is a relative but for whom you are not the next-of-kin. The next-of-kin is defined as any of the following: the un-remarried widow or widower, son, daughter, father, mother, brother or sister of the deceased veteran.
Such access is intended to strike a balance between the public's right to obtain information from Federal records, as outlined in the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), and the veteran's right to privacy as defined by the Privacy Act. Information will not be released if requested for unethical purposes.
The type of information releasable to the general public from Federal (non-archival) records is dependent upon whether or not a person is requesting information under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) or has access authorization from the veteran or next-of-kin.
Click here for a list of information available under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act.
Gee. That sounds like the general public can get some details...even for discharge dates AFTER 1950. Let's see what those details might be:
Examples of information which may be available from Federal (non-archival) Official Military Personnel Files (OMPF) without an unwarranted invasion of privacy include:
Name
Service Number
Dates of Service
Branch of Service
Final Duty Status
Final Rank
Salary *
Assignments and Geographical Locations
Source of Commission *
Military Education Level
Promotion Sequence Number *
Awards and decorations (eligibility only, not actual medals)
Photograph
Transcript of Courts-Martial Trials
Place of entrance and separation
Well well well. I don't know how you get more "concrete detail" oriented than that. If anyone would like to file their request to get these concrete details regarding Ron Paul's military service, feel free to follow the instructions here at this link. Again, any member of the general public can file such a request and is entitled to this information...even people who create random accounts on Internet forums just for the purpose of spreading lies.
Happy hunting!
Yeah, that's what I thought.
To those of you who provided details or links to details: thanks.
To those of you who made snide remarks: go screw yourselves.
What if you did both?
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