I'd like to propose a debate. You vs Me. Ideally I would like to debate state vs market but if you are all anarchists we could find something else to debate over. Please do suggest topics of debate! I am fairly orthodox Rothbardian. could have a debate on the merits of voting, for example, or what are the best tactics for making new libertarians. the debate would be conducted over googlehangouts and hosted after on my utube channel.
plz do let me know if ur interested, what subject ud like to debate on, and your availability for said debate
... just as the State has no money of its own, so it has no power of its own - Albert Jay Nock
Go to www.intjforum.com and the politics section. Debate your heart out. ^_^
You're orthodox Rothbardian and you come here to debate; you're pretty much preaching to the choir :P
Alright. Debate me. Take it over to the LibertyHQ forums. I've debated Skeptical Metal twice before and won both times:
http://mises.org/community/forums/p/31866/495404.aspx
http://mises.org/community/forums/t/32652.aspx?PageIndex=1
No I want to debate over googlehangouts, via webcam and / or voice chat to create footage for my youtube channel. Also we'll need a subject to debate...
We could debate, for example, was pearl harbour an inside job (I don't have an opinion on this subject so wouldn't mind taking either side) was America right in entering WWII. I could also take the pro state issue I guess on some issues, not because I believe that but as an intellectual exercise.
Sure, we can do video.
As to pearl harbor being an inside job, I have no idea. What I can do well is present a Social Democrat point of view.
awesome! but no throwing the debate to make an/cap look good :P when works best for you?
Weekends would be best for me. But next weekend I have the International Students for Liberty Conference coming up (2000 libertarians!), so maybe the weekend after. I'm sorry...
It's all good just let me know when
I don't think that anything in WW2 was an inside job.
I think you're going just to see Dorian Electra. LOL. :p
Meistro: I'd like to propose a debate. You vs Me. Ideally I would like to debate state vs market but if you are all anarchists we could find something else to debate over. Please do suggest topics of debate! I am fairly orthodox Rothbardian. could have a debate on the merits of voting, for example, or what are the best tactics for making new libertarians. the debate would be conducted over googlehangouts and hosted after on my utube channel. plz do let me know if ur interested, what subject ud like to debate on, and your availability for said debate
I'll debate you. I'm not a vegetarian and I don't consider non-human animals and humans equals, but I have found a flaw in many people's arguments for non-human animals not having rights. So I say there is no reason to perceive animals as not having rights. By our own meaning of natural rights, they must, simply for being alive, have the same rights implied, and merely being human does not imply any special case whatsoever.
I'd debate you as a classical liberal v. propertarian anarchist along lines of Nat'l Defense.
The Anarch is to the Anarchist what the Monarch is to the Monarchist. -Ernst Jünger
FDR had every intention of trying to goad the Japanese into firing the first shot. Lincoln did the same with the South. FDR followed Lieutenant Commander Arthur H. McCollum's eight-step plan. Richard Maybury's book "World War II" goes over the chronological order of FDR following the plan and says "the chronological order is very important. Many of these events have been written about extensively, but as far as I know, no one has ever listed them in sequence so that the reader can clearly see the development."
It's too long for me to quote the rest, but here are some other interesting excerpts from the book on this idea:
I know it is hard to believe a President would deliberately sacrifice American lives. How do we know Roosevelt was really willing to do this? Journalist and navy World War II veteran Robert B. Stinnett is an expert on the Pearl Harbor attack. Stinnett points out that on September 7, 1940, President Roosevelt "called for sending cruisers into Japanese territory to antagonize the Japanese militarists so they would take over the civilian government. President Roosevelt called them pop-up cruisers. 'I want them popping up here and there, but I don't want to lose five or six cruisers. I don't mind losing one or two.' Well, if you lose one or two cruisers, you're losing 900 men each," writes Stinnett. "That was about 1,800 men he was prepared to lose to put this provocative action in place."
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Here is an interesting fact to ponder. We have all seen hundreds of photos and newsreels of the attack on Pearl Harbor. One of the most famous pieces of motion picture film is of the battleship Arizona exploding. Shot in color (although usually shown in black and white) this film of the explosion is shocking. You can see color photos of the Battleship Arizona here.
can u delete that plz? cluttering up my thread. i'm sure this would be fertile field for discussion in a different thread. i will happily accept both debate challenges with regards to animal rights (I believe animals will have rights when they petition for them) and nightwatchmen state vs anarcho-capitalist utopia. please do set dates and times!