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[quote user="filc"] [quote user="Truthisnonexistent"] Slaves probably had a chance to escape slavery, that is no justification for slavery. [/quote] I just want to repost this so everyone can see how rediculous your defense has become. [/quote] I'm contrasting. To justifiy a system because one has the chance to do something is
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[quote user="Taras Smereka"] [quote] Yes someone makes the capital, the workers! The market cannot survive without labor.[/quote] No one can survive without labor. If you dont labor, you just lie on the couch and starve to death. Labor isnt a magic deity, it is what it is. [quote]Besides the fact that free markets tend to monopolize, wages
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[quote user="filc"] [quote user="Truthisnonexistent"] ... The capitalists, the upper class, the poltical class, call it what you want, benefit from the market and benefit from the state. [/quote] Political class = capitalist class? Not in the US.... [/quote] The owners of the means of production which receive beneficial treatment
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[quote user="Daniel"] [quote user="Truthisnonexistent"] ... Not all of us benefit from the market. If that were to be true then there would be no starvation in the world. To say everyone benefits from the market or that the market meets everyone's needs is purely utopianism. The capitalist's job is not to produce, it is to
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[quote user="filc"] [quote user="Truthisnonexistent"] Clearly you see the capitalist as more important than the worker. Seeing as the capitalist reaps so much reward and you see that as justified. The workers, in my opinion, are more important because their labor keeps the market functioning. I'm sounding like a broken record
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[quote user="Knight_of_BAAWA"] [quote user="Truthisnonexistent"]I am not 'everyone'.[/quote]Yet you do benefit from the market, despite your foot-stomping tantrum. [quote user="Truthisnonexistent"]That what I have been saying in my previous posts... The current economic system practiced is not an ideal capitalist
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[quote user="Taras Smereka"] [quote] Yes, capital, the capital that so many people do not have but so few people have a lot of. Capital, the lack of, which prohibits some people from life. Capital, which isn't necessary to the markets survival. Labor, necessary to the markets survival. Labor, produces the capital that the capitalist reap
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[quote user="Knight_of_BAAWA"] [quote user="Truthisnonexistent"]I believe it because it happens in the market.[/quote]No it doesn't. [quote user="Truthisnonexistent"]I knew you weren't going to comprehend what I was saying. The capitalists, the social class which benefits off the market[/quote]ALL of us benefit
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[quote user="Daniel"] [quote user="Truthisnonexistent"][quote user="Daniel"] [quote user="Truthisnonexistent"]It is not only the workers that sacrifice, the owners also sacrifice but not as much as the workers and their sacrifice is not as important to the function of the market that they benefit from so much
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[quote user="Fluery"] [quote user="Truthisnonexistent"]The capitalists, the social class which benefits off the market[/quote] In the long run, everybody benefits from a free exchange. [quote user="Truthisnonexistent"]Government intervention tends to monopolize, can we agree? Monopolies mean that the capitalist can charge