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  • Re: Pretend I'm stupid

    "This is just bizarre. Clicking your heels and saying "There's no place like home" three times doesn't mean you'll be whisked away home. The same thing stands for your so-called "definitions". We've been proving all night how your idyllic society crumbles in the face of economic theory. You, unfortunately, are
    Posted to Thread Graveyard (Forum) by That_Which_Isnt on Sat, Dec 12 2009
  • Re: Pretend I'm stupid

    "Where labourers compete to be as inert as possible, so they're not assigned to be worked into exhaustion." This is quite an ironic statement considering the USSR killed people for not working hard enough. "This seems to be a common fallacy for you. Why must I move to a desert island?" I can't tell if you're serious or
    Posted to Thread Graveyard (Forum) by That_Which_Isnt on Sat, Dec 12 2009
  • Re: Pretend I'm stupid

    "Because not everyone is so incensed that fructose corn syrup is in there food." "Firstly, profit is only achieved on a free market by doing a good job for the greatest amount of people." Which is it? "Yes and that is analogous to a socialist economy in which everyone owns everything and receives the same rations" Just
    Posted to Thread Graveyard (Forum) by That_Which_Isnt on Sat, Dec 12 2009
  • Re: Pretend I'm stupid

    "A president is forced onto you. A boss isn't since I can theoretically work for myself through subsistence farming." A president is not forced onto you since you can theoretically move to a desert island. "Why is oppression from above unacceptable but oppression from peers not?" Because if it comes from above then you are unequal
    Posted to Thread Graveyard (Forum) by That_Which_Isnt on Sat, Dec 12 2009
  • Re: Pretend I'm stupid

    "Okay, so I starve to death because of the unincentivized system I live in. I am forced to work to live, therefor I am a slave. What happened to freedom in your society? What happened to that only happening with the evil capitalists?" No, you got to do what you want, sit around and starve, you're drawing a false parallel, in Capitalist
    Posted to Thread Graveyard (Forum) by That_Which_Isnt on Sat, Dec 12 2009
  • Re: Pretend I'm stupid

    "I don't see in choosing a boss how that is anti-freedom?" The same way choosing a President to represent you is anti-freedom, all you get to do is choose your master. "I choose experts all the time with my teeth and my health. Certainly I am not becoming a slave simply because I don't know how to give myself an extensive physical
    Posted to Thread Graveyard (Forum) by That_Which_Isnt on Sat, Dec 12 2009
  • Re: Pretend I'm stupid

    "Um, no, I'm very capable of labour. In fact, I'm tall and strong so I'm more capable than the average person but I choose not to labour at all because regardless of how hard I work or my "ability" I still get the same as everyone else. So I'm gonna sit on my ass... what are you going to do about it?" You can't
    Posted to Thread Graveyard (Forum) by That_Which_Isnt on Sat, Dec 12 2009
  • Re: Pretend I'm stupid

    "Slavery is to me defined as an involuntary state of being. You cannot really choose to be a slave. That being said, by choosing to be employed at Company X you are not becoming a 'wage-slave.' You are trading your time and labor for a certain amount of compensation. If you agree to such a contract then that establishes that you value the
    Posted to Thread Graveyard (Forum) by That_Which_Isnt on Sat, Dec 12 2009
  • Re: Pretend I'm stupid

    "I perceive slavery as an involuntary state. No one is forcing you to go to work for anyone. You need food and water to survive, however I am not obligated to give that to you for then I would become the slave." You're implying too many things here that I can't understand your meaning. "I think that is a very good question for
    Posted to Thread Graveyard (Forum) by That_Which_Isnt on Sat, Dec 12 2009
  • Re: Pretend I'm stupid

    "Yes, humans have been doing that for thousands of years. It's called subsistence farming. Millions of people are still doing it today! Most of them will live for less than 40 years and spend most of their time starving and laboring in futility." And imagine if we move that to the first-world countries. Heck look at USSR's economy
    Posted to Thread Graveyard (Forum) by That_Which_Isnt on Sat, Dec 12 2009
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