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[quote user="EmperorNero"]It's not a stretch at all. Affluence is caused by exchange and specialization, i.e. capitalism. Countries are poor because they attempted socialism more than rich countries. Countries are rich because they attempted socialism less than poor countries. In the 21st century absolute poverty would not exist if it
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@ LibertyStudent - you are right, I do not support a free market unless I deem it to be both morally consistent and efficient at solving problems. But I also see the two as being intertwined, since after all it is completely moral to solve issues of child abuse, foreign dictators, mass starvation and so forth. My point is that the free market wouldn't
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[quote user="Drew"]If I'm not mistaken, you are asking how can the market help the people in Darfur? If so the answer to that question is very easy.[/quote] Yes, I mean specifically how can the market protect people from tyranny/war/conflict et cetera abroad and why can it do so better than the state?
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[quote user="liberty student"]That POV is not compatible with markets. You want to have your cake and eat it too. The state only can do one thing over the market. Initiate force. The market can render defensive force. So why must the state be an aggressor in order to stop aggression? This is the disconnect. Everything the state does is as
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[quote user="John James"]Okay since it seems most people can't be bothered to view the short vid, I'll just write it out...[/quote] I had listened to it. It was a good answer. [quote] Douche : "Have you ever been on welfare, or poor?"[/quote] Haha.
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[quote user="z1235"]So whose demand is being met, then?[/quote] Well demand is effectively desire backed by purchasing power. So there is no demand in such an instance. I would say military intervention should be used whenever it is the desire of the majority to overthrow a tyrannical dictatorship or, whenever it is the desire of a majority
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I have never been poor but I have seen poverty (in the real world - not just the television).
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[quote user="z1235"]Whose problem are the foreign despots, and according to whose subjective values would the state handle it better ? I have problems too. If I found that the market cannot handle my (subjectively valued) "problem" of others having more than I, should I advocate that the state handle the problem "better"
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[quote user="liberty student"]Interventionism is socialism.[/quote] I'd flip that statement around; socialism is interventionist. Subtle difference. [quote]I'm not trying to insult you[/quote] I know. [quote]If you really accept markets, then accept that some people don't give a damn about genocide in Darfur. That's reality
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[quote user="liberty student"]Sure you're still not a socialist?[/quote] Your confusing socialism for anything that's remotely interventionist.