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[quote user="Donny with an A"] You're misusing words, though. "Information" in physics is not the same thing as the knowledge the Christian God is supposed to possess. Similarly, "energy" and "power" in physics are not the kind of intentional, affective influence meant by "power" in the Christian
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[quote user="Daimona"] Ok hang on ...isn't saying that "God is the son of man" just another way of saying that "man invented God" ???? [/quote] Yes. Or rather, more precisely, God is man's descendant. (And even more precisely, God is sapient species' descendant, since the entire universe occupies more than the
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[quote user="Juan"][quote]That is, the laws of physics prove that something exists to which no form of physics whatsoever can apply.[/quote] That sounds like a flat out contradiction no ? [/quote] 'Tis no contradiction. General relativity proves that singularities must exist. Yet no possible physics whatsoever can apply to the singularity
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[quote user="Donny with an A"] Ah hah. So you are pulling a Spinoza. You cad! Are you suggesting then that the laws of physics prove that "all that exists, has ever existed, or will ever exist" exists? Or are you actually trying to say that physics proves the existence of an omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent being that created
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[quote user="Donny with an A"] First: singularities in physics are hypothetical scenarios which result from following theories to their logical conclusions. This does not mean that they are proven to exist (though perhaps it's true that what does exist could not have properties inconsistent with those of the postulated singularity). It
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[quote user="Knight_of_BAAWA"] [quote user="Knight_of_BAAWA"] [quote user="James Redford"]Don't be so surprised that science (specifically, the known laws of physics) proves the existence of God[/quote] [quote user="Knight_of_BAAWA"]But it doesn't. Please stop trying to co-opt observational science with
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[quote user="Knight_of_BAAWA"] [quote user="James Redford"]Don't be so surprised that science (specifically, the known laws of physics) proves the existence of God[/quote] [quote user="Knight_of_BAAWA"]But it doesn't. Please stop trying to co-opt observational science with some silly myth.[/quote] [quote user="James
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[quote user="Donny with an A"] It's simply impossible to physically prove the existence of something which is alleged to not be bound by physical law and to not have physical existence. The most that one would be able to do would be to demonstrate that physics cannot account for everything that is observed, and that something outside of
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[quote user="Knight_of_BAAWA"] [quote user="James Redford"]Don't be so surprised that science (specifically, the known laws of physics) proves the existence of God[/quote] But it doesn't. Please stop trying to co-opt observational science with some silly myth. [/quote] As proved above, the only way to avoid the conclusion
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[quote user="Knight_of_BAAWA"] [quote user="James Redford"]What the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, general relativity, quantum mechanics, and the Standard Model of particle physics) demonstrate is that sapient life is an inherent part of existence, i.e., existence couldn't exist without it.[/quote