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[quote user="ToxicAssets"] Any theory you want. I'm denouncing any notion of a contract envolving society as whole as nonsense. [/quote] Well, Locke's and Hobbes' theories, for instance, build from individuals in a state of nature. So what specifically do you find troublesome with their conceptions of the social contract.
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[quote user="Autolykos"] [quote user="National Acrobat"]I agree with all of that, but that doesn't mean you have to play dumb [sic] to the intentional lethality of guns vs swimming pools.[/quote] Just what difference must intentional lethality make? [/quote] It does't have to make any difference. However, people who support
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[quote user="Autolykos"] Still waiting for a response from you here, National Acrobat. What are you afraid of? [/quote] Strange post. I don't know what you're waiting for. I supported my contention. It's time for you agree to the conditions I laid out.
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[quote user="Autolykos"] Substantiate this. I don't necessarily agree with any or all of it. [/quote] I don't care if you agree with it or not
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[quote user="Anenome"] Common understandings can be initiated by voluntary agreement. You don't need a political institution. [/quote] First thing, you’ve disregarded the conception of politics I’ve put forward, substituting your own and reading into my post what you want. I’m assuming you’re using the Oppenheimer
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[quote user="Autolykos"] Prove it. I'm not even going to be polite to you. Again, prove it. [/quote] You said above (and below incidentally) that I believe that bureaucratic discretion can fill in the gaps between regulations making all aspects of life subject to some form of bureaucratic discretion. I’ve said clearly this is not