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[quote user="Spideynw"] Again, once a child can choose, then the child has rights. [/quote] I would say once a child became human being, then the child has human rights. IMO human became human once he was born.
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[quote user="Jon Irenicus"]Well it is precisely the semantics that do all the work here. The parents do not own the child as they own a piece of furniture or a car. They can't do anything they want to it.[/quote] [quote user="Spideynw"] Why not? [/quote] Because children are humans and have the same rights as their parents or
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[quote user="Byzantine"] In a free society, rights will have to be purchased just like everything else. [/quote] I don't think so. You can purchase life, liberty and/or property, but you can't purchase right to life, liberty and/or property.
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[quote user="Spideynw"] Oh boy, here we go again with rights. So, can one assault an animal? I mean, it is a violation of some "non-aggression" principle, right? [/quote] If you think that all humans have rights and you think that you are human, you have such rights as well. If you think that child is human being, he definitely has
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[quote user="dbooksta"] So my request stands: Offer a coherent argument, based on libertarian principles if you wish, that the cost of criminalizing the possession of these items exceeds the benefit. I.e., imagine I am a completely rational person who has been told that I stand less of a chance of being randomly killed if I sign on to an entity
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I'm not from USA so I don't know what exactly HOA is. Nevertheless basic difference between any voluntary agreement and any government is legitimacy of the agreement. There is no legitimate government in the world which got its power by voluntary agreement between all of the people, over whom government uses its power. Any government is just
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Rothbard discussed this question and other questions about violators of property and punishment here: http://mises.org/rothbard/ethics/thirteen.asp [quote user="Robin"] Would the force used to kick them off have to be reasonable, or can the landowner just shoot the guy? Would this all be decided by the private courts? [/quote]