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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>anand312</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/blogs/anand312/default.aspx</link><description /><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Are Markets run by Human Need or Algorithmic Machines ?</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/blogs/anand312/archive/2010/05/15/are-markets-run-by-human-need-or-algorithmic-machines.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 04:24:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:333125</guid><dc:creator>Anand Kulkarni</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/blogs/anand312/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=333125</wfw:commentRss><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/blogs/anand312/archive/2010/05/15/are-markets-run-by-human-need-or-algorithmic-machines.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;I recntly watched an interview in Awe and Shock - at &lt;a href="http://www.ft.com"&gt;www.ft.com&lt;/a&gt; in Trading room Video section.It is an interview about growing trend of High Frequency Trading and its growing popularity for Market Making&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in Asia and Europe.The interview is Tittled &amp;quot;May 11 :- Does speed Kill ? &amp;quot; - Hirender Misra from Algo Technologies ,&amp;nbsp;putting a fight in favour of High frequncy Trading..(.Naturally. )&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here is my take on this.Markets are meant fundementally for buying and selling , It naturally has to be driven by a genuine Need for the underlying that is being Traded.This Genuine needs stems from &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Human Need for capital goods and services as much as his own desire to invest and grow his capital.A simple example is if a person who is in need of money in short term wants to sell his securities&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he&amp;nbsp;might get a buyer who&amp;nbsp;takes a long term view on the security and is willing to buy the same at Market bid price.Here there is a fundemental and genuine need and they play their small part in The overalll market &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;price discovery&amp;nbsp;.Now replace this scenario with a Market where most of Trading volume is coming from computer algorithms that are artificially creating huge volume of Buy-Sell simple based on some&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;algorithms which in turn take decision based on inputs given such as &amp;quot;General Market trend for the Day&amp;quot; , Possible Variance in the prices and Any particular&amp;nbsp;news specific to the security and the Market itself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These algorithms assign weight factors that eventually&amp;nbsp;come up with a decision to buy/sell the stock based on current Trend.Note here that&amp;nbsp;, No one is looking at fundementals of the security itself , I.e Its&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PE Ratio , Price to book value , Dividend history etc etc.If Markets start ignoring fundementals altogether and their sole purpose of Trading becomes that small spread due to volitility then In the long&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;run we will destory the capability and the fundemental responsibility of Markets i.e providing a platform for price discovery.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;High Frequency Trading is largely unethcial although it can not be proven in a court room.below are some key issues&amp;nbsp;that&amp;nbsp;proliferation of of Hig Frequency&amp;nbsp;Trading will create.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Volume Distortion :-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It will distort volume of Trading&amp;nbsp;done on particular security , Index or commodity.In a free Market increasing volume&amp;nbsp;and decreasing volume on Trading indicates real deamand/supply mechanics from&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; Economic agents involved.It&amp;nbsp;helps figure out any constraints of supply and the supply chain&amp;nbsp;which can be fixed to provide a price stability.For Instance , If some one was trading Mango Futures&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in India&amp;nbsp;during summer &amp;nbsp;using High Frequency Trading , It would artificially create more volume of Trading and mislead business to think that there is more demand for Mangoes.This will lead to rise&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in Price of Mangoes and Eventually More capital will inflow into Mango Futures for speculation trading which otherwise would not have happened in a free market if only humans were allowed to&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Trade.Imagine a Large portion of capital freed from a business undertaking getting diverted into Trading Mango Futures.More capital chasing speculation on Mangoes will drive the prices up &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;eventually.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Put in simple words We trade for a purpose and Genuine need.High Frequency Trading defies that.Mr Misra says We would be in dark ages with out technological innovation.I completely disagree&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;with that argument.1000 Years ago people traded Mangoes/Rice/Any commodity for their basic need of food and even today we do that.Some fundemental things in this world don;t change.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;A general Level of increase in Volitility in Markets :-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;High Frequency Trading will lead to a general level of jump in average volitility of Markets.Weather it is indivisual securities , Commodities or Indexes.This is because algorithms will push&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Large volume orders , draw them back or cancell them in flash of seconds creating a Artificial demand/supply in Market that will induce behaviour changes in price.Add to that there&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;are companies working on Introducing a News Scanner coupled with High Frequency Algos.That will scan / read all news particular to a company and decide what is to be done.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All in a flash of seconds...Imagine a Huge sell order at the beginning of a Market that will drive the price down and same order can be broken into small demand/buy side pieces&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;to buy the security at lower prices later.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Effect on Market Jumps and Diffusion :-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let us assume that we have a hypothetical Algorithm that combines news sacanning and Algorithmic techniques to Trade.In the middle of a Trading day on Apple shares.Let us&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;also assume that Apple is going to announce its quarterly results that day.The quarterly results beat expectations but there is a sudden news that the CEO of Apple has met an&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;accident and is Serious.Now what decision is Algo going to take ? What is it influenced by ? How much Weightage should it give to company making a profit Vs The accident&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;which ultimately should have very little affect on the security.If the Algorithm decides to push in a Hugh Margin order of sell , It could easily create a stampede on the stock&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and finally turn into a rout on the stock.What if some hrs Later we come to know that the accident was not that serious and actually the CEO is doing good ? Can the algorithm&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;now do precisely the reverse to bring the price back to a fair level ? No it can;t The market participants would be scared to buy the security because of uncertainity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Take a sample Example : - Yesterday a spanish newspaper announced that Sarkozy was planning to pull out of Euro.What route could this cause on FX markets if we&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;have an Algorithmic trading couple with News scanner ? Offcourse EUR is already getting battered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Make a note that Most &amp;nbsp;investment banks have&amp;nbsp;quantitative models to predict and catch Jumps in Markets.They model it using &amp;quot;Jump diffusion Algorithms&amp;quot; ..This can&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;lead to&amp;nbsp;a route in Markets as these algorithms will push huge sell orders to benefit from a Falling Market.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The epistemological question of How humans think and Make decisions is beyond the level of Modelling using computers or Statistical Algorithms.It simple is not possible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if we replace Genuine human action in Markets by computers it will spell a disater in the Long run.I think regulators should have a curb on High Frequency Trading&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;to a certain level of volume for Major Market participants.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Unfair game of &amp;nbsp;Machines Vs Humans :&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A High frequency Trading also requires DMA i.e a Direct market access via a client API.A normal Trader or investor from the public certainly does not have&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;access to this kind of facility.He either depends on a broker or does it himself.In either case there is simply no comarison at all.It is very much likely that this&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;will ultimately lead to a Fight of common Man Vs the Machine. I.e common Man Vs The Hedge&amp;nbsp;funds&amp;nbsp;/ Wall ST / High net worth clients.This is simply &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;unacceptable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Conclusion :-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;High frequency Trading is largely unethical and can have devastating affects on Markets on a bad day if these algorithms go wrong.I&amp;nbsp;am sure they&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;will.I am a computer programmer myself and i know.No matter&amp;nbsp;how well you write your code there will always be bugs.&amp;nbsp;Look at the latest &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;example of Misterious DOW collpase over 1000 points.This is just the beginning.The regulators should wake up and understand these&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;basic issues otherwise there is very strong possibility that people will loose belif in the markets on day.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/aggbug.aspx?PostID=333125" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/blogs/anand312/archive/tags/Ethics_2E00_/default.aspx">Ethics.</category><category domain="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/blogs/anand312/archive/tags/Markets/default.aspx">Markets</category><category domain="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/blogs/anand312/archive/tags/High+Frequency+Algo+Trading/default.aspx">High Frequency Algo Trading</category></item></channel></rss>