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Sieben posted on Sat, Nov 14 2009 9:34 AM

I've been watching documentaries about the fed, and some questions came up which I can't find immediate/satisfactory answers to.

Who owns the federal reserve?

What banks do people refer to when they say "international banking cartels" or "international banks funded both sides of ww1/2"?

Were the world wars caused by these bankers?

Did the same international banks fund the rise of Lenin and Mao?

What was the roll of these bankers during the cold war?

Citations and links please. A lot of this stuff borders on crazy conspiracy theory.

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AJ replied on Sat, Nov 14 2009 9:43 AM

I'd say that bankers are just a de facto part of the Statist monopoly leviathan, if that helps.

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Who owns the federal reserve?

The Federal Reserve Board of Gov. is an absolute government agency.  The Federal Reserve Banks are owned by the shareholders (member banks).

Were the world wars caused by these bankers

Bankers financy 100% of any military action since they create 100% of the money supply as interest bearing loans to themselves.  If the bankers don't want a war they just shut down the money.  If they want it.....well....Iraq/Afganistan is a perfect example.  They haven't had to tax the people at all to pay for those wars....yet...

The cold war was probably just an excuse to have tons of government borrowed money funneled into companies that the bankers own without having a real war where the masses get pissed off.

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Sieben replied on Sat, Nov 14 2009 9:58 AM

tomozope:
The Federal Reserve Banks are owned by the shareholders (member banks).
Which banks.

tomozope:
Bankers financy 100% of any military action since they create 100% of the money supply as interest bearing loans to themselves.  If the bankers don't want a war they just shut down the money.  If they want it.....well....Iraq/Afganistan is a perfect example.  They haven't had to tax the people at all to pay for those wars....yet...
Which bankers.

tomozope:
The cold war was probably just an excuse to have tons of government borrowed money funneled into companies that the bankers own without having a real war where the masses get pissed off.
Which companies. Which banks.

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Saan replied on Sat, Nov 14 2009 10:04 AM

Snowflake:
Who owns the federal reserve?

THe answer is in The Creature from Jekyll Island.

Sorry can't find my copy.

Snowflake:
What banks do people refer to when they say "international banking cartels" or "international banks funded both sides of ww1/2"?

The central banks of the respective governments and to some extent the member banks.

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Did the same international banks fund the rise of Lenin and Mao?

In a sense yes, but not until they had consumed most of their nations capital.

Snowflake:
What was the roll of these bankers during the cold war?

Monetary policy.

Snowflake:
Citations and links please. A lot of this stuff borders on crazy conspiracy theory.

Read Gary North's Gold Wars.  I think he has it for free at his website.  If you pay him a subscription fee he has tons of other useful material as well.

Do a search here.  www.fee.org This website has more back issues of the freeman.

Do another search here.  www.dailyreckoning.com

 

 

 

 Criminals, there ought to be a law.

Criminals there ought to be a whole lot more.   Bon Scott.

 

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Sieben replied on Sat, Nov 14 2009 10:18 AM

Saan:
THe answer is in The Creature from Jekyll Island.
I thought that no one had any direct knowledge of what went on there, even if we knew a lot of rich people attended.

Saan:
Read Gary North's Gold Wars.  I think he has it for free at his website.  If you pay him a subscription fee he has tons of other useful material as well.
I skimmed through it. No mentioning of specific bank(er)s.

Saan:

Do a search here.  www.fee.org This website has more back issues of the freeman.

Do another search here.  www.dailyreckoning.com

Turned up zip. Just the IMF keeps popping up. I know all about the IMF funding crappy governments and selling off their resources to multinationals. I guess I'd be interested to know who pulls the strings at the IMF. Apparently its collectively owned by the g20 who have voting power over it, but that doesn't say much about private interests.

 

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tomozope replied on Sat, Nov 14 2009 10:26 AM

tomozope:
The Federal Reserve Banks are owned by the shareholders (member banks).
Which banks. That is the term "member banks" which consist of federal and some state chartered banks.  All federal chartered banks are member banks.  All the member banks are controlled by the Fed Res. board of Gov. 

tomozope:
Bankers financy 100% of any military action since they create 100% of the money supply as interest bearing loans to themselves.  If the bankers don't want a war they just shut down the money.  If they want it.....well....Iraq/Afganistan is a perfect example.  They haven't had to tax the people at all to pay for those wars....yet...
Which bankers.  A combination but my guess would be the biggest funder if the Fed Bank of New York since it is the largest and most powerful of all the banks in the USA, or at least that is what the banks say.  It's hard to say which bank exactly buys the most government bonds.  I've never looked into that.

tomozope:
The cold war was probably just an excuse to have tons of government borrowed money funneled into companies that the bankers own without having a real war where the masses get pissed off.
Which companies. Which banks.  That's a huge question to answer, but most of your large corporations are owned or the banking system controls them through a mortgage which is payable profit to the banks.

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Out of the 203,053 shares (in 1914):-- National City Bank (Stillman - Rockefeller) 30.000 First National Bank (Morgan) 15.000 National Bank of Commerce (Morgan) 21.000 Hanover National Bank (Stillman) 10.300 Chase National (Rockefeller) 6.000 Eustace Mullins, The Secret of the Federal Reserve Johnny-come-latelies, like the guy who wrote the Jeckyl Island book, learned everything they know about the Fed from Eustace Mullins International bankers like the Warburgs were instrumental in financing the belligerents (Paul Warburg in the US, Max warburg in Germany). Please read letters of Jacob Schiff, head of Khun, Loeb Lenin was paid for by the German high command, please read "The Sealed Train" http://www.yamaguchy.netfirms.com/7897401/pearson/pearson_index.html The new Soviet-Russia was supported by Standard Oil:-- http://www.yamaguchy.netfirms.com/7897401/denny/foroil_10.html Mao was put in power by US State Department. During the cold war Rockefeller and Rothschild extended large loans to the Eastern block, at much lower interest than a US citizen with good credit could get.
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