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filc Posted: Fri, Dec 18 2009 12:28 AM

For whatever reason I've been addicted to Beethoven, Mozart, and Bach lately.  Specifically however Bach, and whatever the cello.

Well as it turns out I stumbled across Braid. Putting the greatness of the game aside there are two particular peices in the game that are musically excellent IMO.

DownStream and Lullaby Set by Shira Kammen.

I've listened to some of her other songs and for whatever reason didn't find them of too much interest.

Aside from that however has anyone heard these two songs?

I'm not really knowledgeable in the "contemporary classical" scene. Are there any other works someone would recomend? I'm thirsty for music so to speak.

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Merlin replied on Fri, Dec 18 2009 3:10 AM

From Bach to moderns? May I advice going though the great Tchaikovsky, Mussorgsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Chopin, Satie, Schubert, some Verdi (“traviata” mostly) and Bizet first? No modern mish-mash can come close to the epic XIX century.

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William replied on Fri, Dec 18 2009 3:19 AM

Dvorak "Seranade for Strings in E" if you are on a strings kick.  If you want some 19th-20th century music, you would have to be more specific to what you would like.

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Solredime replied on Fri, Dec 18 2009 5:51 AM

Merlin:

From Bach to moderns? May I advice going though the great Tchaikovsky, Mussorgsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Chopin, Satie, Schubert, some Verdi (“traviata” mostly) and Bizet first? No modern mish-mash can come close to the epic XIX century.

I agree, and you need to go through the neoclassicals first.

Don't forget Rachmaninov!

Also, if you do listen to Chopin, please listen to performances by Argerich, she is by far one of if not the best at expressing Chopin (who is my favourite composer); and anything to do with violin by Saint-saens, Mendelssohn, Paganini, Sarasate, etc. look for performances by Heifetz.

Also I've recently stumbled upon Coreli, you might like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTKoSNlmt80

If you want a list of classical music just message me :)

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Merlin replied on Fri, Dec 18 2009 6:42 AM

Four followers. Good, we can take pleasure in seeing that Civilization still lives.

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William replied on Fri, Dec 18 2009 2:27 PM

For something a little more modern that highlights a violin, you can try Stravinsky's "Violin Concerto"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZdt2izWjgo

And if you just got into Bach, Mas in B minor is almost a must for new comers, as well as the Brandenburg Concerto's if you haven't listened to them yet

As far as the Cello is concerned you can try these (I bet,most of which can be found on youtube):

Baroque/ Classical Era:

Vivaldi - nothing particular, but he wrote many Cello Concerto's

Hayden - Cello Concerto 1 in C

Beethoven - Triple Concerto

CPE Bah - Cello Concerto in a minor

JS Bach - Cello Suites (any)

romantic era

Dvorak - Cello Concerto 2, rondo in G major

Tchaicovsky - Variations on a rocco theme

Brahms - double concerto

Modern:

Elgar: Cello concerto in E minor

Benjamin Britten: Cello Symphony

 

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This would have been a perfect post to liven up the Mises Lounge!  Oh well.  Smile

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By the way, I love Bach with a passion.  Also Vivaldi and Beethoven.

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Strange no one mentioned Handel.  Or Pantera.

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William replied on Fri, Dec 18 2009 4:38 PM

The music of Shira Kammen sounds Celtic, in case you liked that style and wished to pursue songs with that sound here is a wikipedia article that could hopefully springboard you into more music of that genre:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_music

The "lullaby set" actually contains traditional lullaby's.  If you like that form of music, Brahms and Chopin wrote very famous lullaby's

Berceuse sur le nom de Gabriel Fauré  by ravel and the George Gershwin Lullaby would be two other semi-less famous examples as well.

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filc replied on Fri, Dec 18 2009 5:53 PM

Gawsh I have lots of listening to catch up on. Thanks guys. :)

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jtucker replied on Sat, Dec 19 2009 2:46 PM

You are all thinking too late. Consider the glories of Josquin. The school of composition here dates from the onset of capitalism and rising prosperity in Europe and the music reflects the rise to perfection and the progress evident all around.

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I think people should give Apocalyptica a try. A lot of instrumentals, but some with vocals. It is, in essence, metal by a cello quartet.

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filc replied on Sat, Dec 19 2009 3:46 PM

jtucker:

You are all thinking too late. Consider the glories of Josquin. The school of composition here dates from the onset of capitalism and rising prosperity in Europe and the music reflects the rise to perfection and the progress evident all around.

Shoot I just listened to some of this on amazon.com. Outstanding! I love choral work.

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filc replied on Sat, Dec 19 2009 3:49 PM

J. Grayson Lilburne:

This would have been a perfect post to liven up the Mises Lounge!  Oh well.  Smile

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filc replied on Sun, Jan 24 2010 10:40 PM

Dondoolee:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_music

The "lullaby set" actually contains traditional lullaby's.  If you like that form of music, Brahms and Chopin wrote very famous lullaby's

When I look up Brahms lullabye it's that same one I've heard since i was a little kid. Needless to say I'm not terribly interested in it. Now how Shira incorporated that, IDK, but it sounded nice. Is there anything specific you can point me to? I did listen to some other of Brahms symphony's and they sound pretty rockin

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Clayton replied on Mon, Jan 25 2010 2:32 AM

Bach's Cello Suite No. 1. Ten minutes of your life that could not be better spent. Smile

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William replied on Mon, Jan 25 2010 3:26 AM

I just meant she was using lullabyes as a style.  I don't think she incorperated "Brahms lullabye" directly, I was just pointing out the 2 most famous lullabyes I know.

As far as pointing to somethin specific, what do you mean? Specific Brahms, lullabys, Celtic music, or something else?

I doubt I could help much with Celtic music though.

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Bert replied on Mon, Jan 25 2010 3:39 AM

Knight_of_BAAWA:

It is, in essence, metal by a cello quartet.

If you want to actually come across metal with other instruments involved check out bands such as Remains of The Day, Fall of Efrafa, and other "post-crust" acts.  My girlfriend listens to a lot of black metal, and while vocally I'm sure it's not the most pleasing, musically it's very talented and some of those bands tend to add cello and violin playing in their music, but it's hard to say what to search for...

I have a friend who plays metal/crust, and he was adding cello samples to the intros of his band's songs.

Getting back to the related thread...  I love Beethoven's 7th.  Is there any classical (or composers specifically) who's music was more gloomy than usual?

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Merlin replied on Mon, Jan 25 2010 4:06 AM

Bert:

Getting back to the related thread...  I love Beethoven's 7th.  Is there any classical (or composers specifically) who's music was more gloomy than usual?

I agree that the 7nt is great.

 

Sibelius’ Valse Triste is as gloomy as they come. I don’t know about his other pieces. I hear Berlioz was into gloomy, but can’t say so from experience.

 

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William replied on Mon, Jan 25 2010 4:32 AM

Merlin:

Bert:

Getting back to the related thread...  I love Beethoven's 7th.  Is there any classical (or composers specifically) who's music was more gloomy than usual?

 

I agree that the 7nt is great.

 

Sibelius’ Valse Triste is as gloomy as they come. I don’t know about his other pieces. I hear Berlioz was into gloomy, but can’t say so from experience.

 

 

The four most famous examples I know:

Chopin's "funeral march"

Tchaikovsky's final movement in the 6th Symphony "Pathetique"

Barbers "Adagio for strings"

Adagio for Strings in G minor (sometimes called Albinoni's Adagio, though it was actually composed by remo giazotto)

I am sure all could be found easily on youtube

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Clayton replied on Mon, Jan 25 2010 1:50 PM

Dondoolee:

The four most famous examples I know:

Chopin's "funeral march"

Tchaikovsky's final movement in the 6th Symphony "Pathetique"

Barbers "Adagio for strings"

Adagio for Strings in G minor (sometimes called Albinoni's Adagio, though it was actually composed by remo giazotto)

I am sure all could be found easily on youtube

Ase's Death from the Peer Gynt suite by Edvard Grieg. Will make your hair stand on end (at least, it does mine). Smile

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Solredime replied on Mon, Jan 25 2010 2:25 PM

Nothing beats Mozart's Lacrimosa, or the rest of his requiem.

 

edit: also love the 3rd movement of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata.

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Merlin replied on Mon, Jan 25 2010 2:34 PM

ClaytonB:
Ase's Death from the Peer Gynt suite by Edvard Grieg. Will make your hair stand on end (at least, it does mine).

That was great!

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filc replied on Mon, Jan 25 2010 2:40 PM

Man I can't wait to get home and listen to all the great stuff you guys posted!

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William replied on Mon, Jan 25 2010 5:11 PM

I forgot to list "Dido's Lament" by Henry Purcell.  That is a very famous depressing song.  Also from Purcell, "The Cold Song" and "Funeral for Queen Mary"

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Clayton replied on Mon, Jan 25 2010 11:54 PM

Merlin:

ClaytonB:
Ase's Death from the Peer Gynt suite by Edvard Grieg. Will make your hair stand on end (at least, it does mine).

 

That was great!

 

Check out the rest of the Peer Gynt Suite, there's a lot of great stuff in there... very moody, romantic. Ingrid's Lament, Solveig's Song, Hall of the Mountain King (more upbeat, but the coolest riff ever). Grieg was an OG.

Someone on a different forum mentioned this piece a few months back and... wow... let me just say that the first time I heard it was like a revelation. Try it out, if you like Ase's Death I think you'll like this. I had never heard of Atterberg before I heard this piece.

Less depressing but very introspective is the 2nd movement from Dvorak's 9th symphony (possibly the best symphony ever written, from beginning to end).

While we're on a dirge kick, here's a slow and pensive piece for piano by Claude Debussy. It's one of those pieces that, despite not being flashy and fast, is actually extremely difficult to play correctly because it is all about the resonance and dissonance within the piano.

Of course, Chopin is my favorite composer by a mile, so I have to post something of his. Here's a Chopin piece that'll stand your hair on end. Wink Also, here's Ivo Pogorelich (one of my top fav interpreters of Chopin), playing Chopin's very sad E minor Prelude.

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filc replied on Tue, Jan 26 2010 12:06 AM

ClaytonB:

Bach's Cello Suite No. 1. Ten minutes of your life that could not be better spent. Smile

Well Duh. Suite 1 is a tune that can turn any cloudy day into a day of inspiration and sunshine, whether the sun is out or not!

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filc replied on Tue, Jan 26 2010 12:55 AM

Dondoolee:

As far as pointing to somethin specific, what do you mean? Specific Brahms, lullabys, Celtic music, or something else?

I doubt I could help much with Celtic music though.

Precisely. If you can't identify anything it's no problem. You've all been a great help already. I think collectively I have added probably 400 tracks to my WHS, of which I listen to nightly off my squeezebox while I read.

ClaytonB:
Here's a Chopin piece that'll stand your hair on end.

Yes this is nuckin futs. I hadn't realized it but this pretty much maid me an insta Chopin fan. Amazing.

Thanks everyone.

 

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Clayton replied on Tue, Jan 26 2010 2:22 AM

filc:

ClaytonB:
Here's a Chopin piece that'll stand your hair on end.

Yes this is nuckin futs. I hadn't realized it but this pretty much maid me an insta Chopin fan. Amazing.

Thanks everyone.

That piece is unfinished, by the way, it was published posthumously. Let me know if you'd like more Chopin recommendations.

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