My friend sent me a link to a thread on the infamous 4chan.org/b/ . Threads there max out at 300 comments and I caught it and saved it right before it was deleted.
Apparently someone came to these forums some time ago inquiring with a fantastical what-If scenario and didn't like what he heard.
5633.4chan-b.htm
That may be tough to view since I only attached the html (though, I have the other files).
Your brain may hurt too much by reading it, but it's a good representation of the common thought process of today's youth.
Anonymous:Kill the nigga and steal everything + rape his wife
This.
What are we suppose to do with this? =p
What was the libertarian response?
I thought it is quite straightforward that you don't get anything.
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filc: What are we suppose to do with this? =p
Yeah "democratic socialism" (really just tame-market capitalism with a strong welfare state, as practiced universally in the developed world) has just lead to the highest standard of living ever enjoyed in human history.Really you're right, other than that, it truly sucks.I long for the days when everything was like a fucking Dickens novel @_@
This really does beg the question.
Nothing really to see here, minus mildly interesting voyeurism; move along. the moment 4chan begins raiding mises.org, is when you should all worry. Then again, it might have the eventual effect of a massive free marketing push (for the sake of "lulz", of course) & could be eventually beneficial whenever the servers were to hypothetically stopped being "raeped".Imo, 4chan is pretty good about an H.L. Menken style of "equal opportunity offending" regarding socialists,libertarians, anarchists, etc. Given enough threads & thread-jacks, the entire political spectrum(s) will all get their moments of ridicule.
"Look at me, I'm quoting another user to show how wrong I think they are, out of arrogance of my own position. Wait, this is my own quote, oh shi-" ~ Nitroadict
I wonder if people there stand for anything. Or is it just chic nihilism?
They live for the lulz, so it's not nihilism.
Nitroadict:Nothing really to see here, minus mildly interesting voyeurism; move along. the moment 4chan begins raiding mises.org, is when you should all worry.
They're your everyday kid between 15 and 30. A lot of it is just an act and is indeed just for teh lulz. But, 75% of them have extreme disdain for anyone who believes in a god and rejects socialism.
Le Master: They're your everyday kid between 15 and 30. A lot of it is just an act and is indeed just for teh lulz. But, 75% of them have extreme disdain for anyone who believes in a god and rejects socialism.
This statistic is nonsense, especially when everyone (or almost everyone, excluding "namefags") posts under "Anonymous".
Like Nitro said, nothing to see here. Anonymous attacks everything and everyone. It's when they have a campaign on the level of Project Chanology against libertarianism or Austrian ecnomics that we have to worry.
Market anarchist, Linux geek, aspiring Perl hacker, and student of the neo-Aristotelians, the classical individualist anarchists, and the Austrian school.
wombatron: Like Nitro said, nothing to see here. Anonymous attacks everything and everyone. It's when they have a campaign on the level of Project Chanology against libertarianism or Austrian ecnomics that we have to worry.
If anything, a thread like this would only encourage them.
I ought to have said "it seems like 75%..."
But, yeah, there is really no way of telling.
Title changed.
Please don't lay bait for known DDOSers at Mises.org.
Conza88: If anything, a thread like this would only encourage them.
Pft, worry about... what? Can you explain it to me? (or are we joking about that, I apologize if I missed it) Their casus belli is a debate over a simple hypothetical question that is easily solved.I have occasionaly seen on this forum a reluctance to debate or explain to people who don't understand. Often the debate falls into an ad hominem flurry (no different than any forum or any other conversation for that matter). So I guess it could be possible there is also resentment to that. However, I'd like to see how the "[people] on mises.org" refused to solve the problem. Also, his hypothetical situation is easily explainable. The farmer can always go ask other people for food, the farmer more than likely has something to trade, and even if the other farmer is unwiling to share his food with him he might be willing to trade, etc. (you could say he's stranded on a deserted island with only the other farmer but then he could always go fish.)Perhaps an ad hominem attack is warranted, you don't need to understand economics to solve such an easy logical problem. This also leads me to believe that the whole thread there might simply be another 4chan gag, many of the replies are typical trolling and lulz.
Speaking of 4 chan...
LOL!!! See, you can't hate the 4chan people, I love them dearly, they provide me mountains of kinky hentai and completely humiliate the people I hate most. +1000 internetz
SerfAmericano:Pft, worry about... what? Can you explain it to me? (or are we joking about that, I apologize if I missed it) Their casus belli is a debate over a simple hypothetical question that is easily solved.I have occasionaly seen on this forum a reluctance to debate or explain to people who don't understand. Often the debate falls into an ad hominem flurry (no different than any forum or any other conversation for that matter). So I guess it could be possible there is also resentment to that. However, I'd like to see how the "[people] on mises.org" refused to solve the problem. Also, his hypothetical situation is easily explainable. The farmer can always go ask other people for food, the farmer more than likely has something to trade, and even if the other farmer is unwiling to share his food with him he might be willing to trade, etc. (you could say he's stranded on a deserted island with only the other farmer but then he could always go fish.)Perhaps an ad hominem attack is warranted, you don't need to understand economics to solve such an easy logical problem. This also leads me to believe that the whole thread there might simply be another 4chan gag, many of the replies are typical trolling and lulz.
Why exactly was this addressed to me?
Are you looking for a response?
Conza88: Why exactly was this addressed to me? Are you looking for a response?
No, it was directed at everyone preaching the inevitable doom of the Misesian Empire at the hands of the 4chan barbarians. I'm sorry, if my post sounded antagonistic or anything.But yes, I am looking for a response, I'm curious (confused?) what all the hubabaloo is about. I understand the thread is humorous in vein, but the changing of the topic title and the fact that it was posted in the first place both confused me and lead me to believe the thread was either a joke or a initiation of a debate regarding the 4chan scenario. Again, I apologize for the misunderstanding, but I ask for leniency in regard to my English as I am freshly released from the public school system.
Are you afraid of the site which launched such gems as the "lolcatz" and the immortal "Oh really? owl"? I bet Mike Judge paid a visit while working on Idiocracy.
But I bet the biggest appeal is the fact that there's a boatlod of porn in it, the weirdest and most sickening the better...
Giant_Joe:I wonder if people there stand for anything. Or is it just chic nihilism?
Bring it on, I would love to tweak some socialist noses.
'Men do not change, they unmask themselves' - Germaine de Stael
Giant_Joe: I wonder if people there stand for anything. Or is it just chic nihilism?
There is method to 4chan's absurdist-nihilistic madness (a mere attempt at what they stand for, but assuming that they stand anything mis-understands their emergent organizing & behavior). They are the ones keeping the original spirit of the internet alive (however absurd this may seem) while the rest of the late-adopters, young tweenagers & their clueless parents, nanny statists & moral outragers pollute the internet with the same kind of bullsh*t people eventually get sick of offline.
Capital Pumper: filc: What are we suppose to do with this? =p Yeah "democratic socialism" (really just tame-market capitalism with a strong welfare state, as practiced universally in the developed world) has just lead to the highest standard of living ever enjoyed in human history.Really you're right, other than that, it truly sucks.I long for the days when everything was like a fucking Dickens novel @_@ This really does beg the question.
How DOESN'T Democratic Socialism lead to the highest standard of living ever enjoyed? I assume he's talking about how people in poverty were imprisoned.
Democracy for Breakfast:How DOESN'T Democratic Socialism lead to the highest standard of living ever enjoyed?
How doesn't capitalism lead to the highest living standard ever enjoyed?
How doesn't fascism lead to the highest living standard ever enjoyed?
How doesn't communism lead to the highest living standard, ok I can't make the case for that one...
Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. Memorise its name.
Freedom of markets is positively correlated with the degree of evolution in any society...
Andrew Cain: Bring it on, I would love to tweak some socialist noses.
You might as well try reasoning with locusts.
Err.. you MIGHT want to check the date of the last post in threads you are commenting in, bro. This thread has been dead for 6 months.
You young people with your Rock and Roll and fancy new words! I had literally no idea what "lulz" was until I came across this topic, so I typed it into an Internet dictionary and came up with this:
Lulz is the one good reason to do anything, from trolling to rape. After every action taken, you must make the epilogic dubious disclaimer: "I did it for the lulz".
Which pretty much sums it all.
Seriously years a go a friend talked to me about 4chan and I asked what was so special about it: "Lots, and I really mean LOTS of anime porn". That says it all.
Kakugo:Internet dictionary
If you're talking about Urban Dictionary, then discard that definition. It contains too much unmoderated garbage (because the moderators/editors seemingly can't keep up with the influx of shit) to be taken seriously.
The definition you're quoting is a very good example of what I'm talking about. It only explains the usage of the word as it was or is common on 4chan, without even mentioning what's most important to the outsider: that lulz is a misspelling of lol.
assimilateur: Kakugo:Internet dictionary If you're talking about Urban Dictionary, then discard that definition. It contains too much unmoderated garbage (because the moderators/editors seemingly can't keep up with the influx of shit) to be taken seriously. The definition you're quoting is a very good example of what I'm talking about. It only explains the usage of the word as it was or is common on 4chan, without even mentioning what's most important to the outsider: that lulz is a misspelling of lol.
I just typed "lulz definition" into Google and read the first entry, which happens to come from Urban Dictionary.
Kakugo:I just typed "lulz definition" into Google and read the first entry, which happens to come from Urban Dictionary.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
I'm not even saying that everything on Urban Dictionary is bad, just that the moderation is absolutely inadequate, unlike Wikipedia. Accordingly, I consider it borderline useless at best, and outright counterproductive at worst, for use as a dictionary.
Using Urban Dictionary as a source on anything but obscure fictional sexual practices bored people think up and slang terms used by metropolitan university-age Americans is like using the Jerry Springer Show as a sociological survey of the American public. I cannot believe I am voluntarily entering this sequence of letters into this site's word processing software, but Encyclopaedia Dramatica is, from what I hear, a far better source on troll culture.
Praetyre:Using Urban Dictionary as a source on anything but obscure fictional sexual practices bored people think up and slang terms used by metropolitan university-age Americans is like using the Jerry Springer Show as a sociological survey of the American public.
I couldn't have said it that well myself, even though you're essentially echoing my sentiment.
Well, to be fair, I have the advantage of being a native English speaker. Then again, you have the advantage of an awesome avatar, whereas my representatve of choice wouldn't look out of place in Superdickery's Propaganda Extravaganza section.
Also, is it me, or does "lulz" sound like how a very drunk or highly-vibrating man would say LOL? I cannot seem to pronounce it without inclining towards salivation. Which seems oddly appropriate, consider it's primary users.
I see nothing wrong with your avatar per se, but it seems to imply that you're a fan of a certain mediocre (painfully so, bearing in mind its potential) game called Spore. It is a Spore creature, isn't it?
Funny you should mention that: while I am with you 100% on Spore's mediocrity, I tended to use it more as a platform for non-computer savvy people like me to create interesting looking beings. The Chinese-Lizardman just stood out in my mind.
There are some games that you can spend hours in setting up and roleplaying configurations. Tropico is an example of this that has good gameplay, Spore is a massive dissapointment that nevertheless packs a great deal of customiziability.