It should be pretty darn easy for anyone involved in aviation to prove chemtrail spraying is going on.
Just start with any point, say North houston. Track all the flight paths going out and to the airports. Once those are marked, you should easily be able to see that the chemtrail planes are not in those paths.
Why hasn't anyone done this?
Why don't you do it, limitgov?
Because, I don't know that much about aviation to accurately mark those flight paths.
The reason why some contrails stay in the sky and others disappear almost immediately has to do with different levels of water vapor in the surrounding air. If the surrounding air is saturated with water vapor, then the contrails won't disperse. If there's hardly any water vapor in the surrounding air, the contrails will disperse almost immediately.
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Excuse me as I'm not well versed in the arguments regarding chemtrails--what does marking the paths accomplish? Are you claiming that the proposed chemtrail planes only land and take off from clandestine locations?
Do you deny that contrails are also a naturally occuring phenomenon?
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Do you deny that contrails are also a naturally occuring phenomenon?"
contrails exist.
chemtrails exist too. the existance of contrails does not disprove the existance of chemtrails.
what I'm saying is, mark the paths of commercial flights (southwest, continetnal, etc). then, look at the chemtrail planes. they don't use the commercial flight paths.
Don't call them "chemtrails." It is ignorant. You will get laughed at in public not just by the Establishment, but by people who immediately will associate it with "conspiracy theory." They are metals (aluminum and barium) and the process is part of geoengineering, particularly albedo modification.
Metals are distributed into the air in order to seed clouds that will be 4x more reflective of the sunds rays than the natural greenhouse process of the Earth.
UNILATERAL GEOENGINEERING
Call the FAA and tell them there is an unidentifiable plane above you that is flying in an asterisk or a grid pattern (those are the ones I notice) and they might tell you. Just don't start screaming about chemtrails...
"Don't call them "chemtrails." It is ignorant. "
Its easier to call them chemtrails instead of saying they are spraying aluminum, barium and chromium. We need to call it something. Its just easier. They isn't anything funny about spraying these metals in the air. I'm not concerned with anyone laughing. The fact that they do it in almost every city now almost everyday is pretty incredible. Not noticing them would be a pretty incredible feat in itself.
contrails exist. chemtrails exist too. the existance of contrails does not disprove the existance of chemtrails.
I agree it does not disprove "chemtrails", but I have had an argument where the other party did not believe contrails were natural. I have little else to add--just making sure that wasn't an origin of the argument.
Call it what it is, Geoengineering. They are creating metal coated clouds; what is complicated about that? You should care if people laugh because...you will be wasting your time if you tell them about it and they laugh...
Chemtrails is a loaded term for intended for ... well, the less intelligent. The Jesse Ventura conspiracy show types.
I spent a fair amount of time pondering about this "chemtrails" looked over various documentaries and did some research.
Eventually I came to conclusion that the trails are actually airplane exhaust. This of course does not rule out that there may very well be active spraying programs for various reasons. But plane exhaust due to cheap and bad fuel used by the airline industry is the most likely cause of the trails. In certain weather conditions they are more apparent than others.
Contrails is just the plane engine exhaust becoming non visible due to the climate conditions at the time. They are not condensation as the planes do not emit water vapour they emit pollution, carbon monoxide and various other types of pollutants particulate matter (smoke) and so on.
The solution to chemtrails is to encourage the airline industry to add some form of catalytic converter to the jet engines that converts the pollution to co2 (non pollutant), unlikely to ever occur, just my own solution.
I lost a longer version of this post due to browser problem and i am not retyping it. Even though I have identified the chemtrails as plane exhaust does not rule out the possibility of active spray programs for geo engineering, weather modification, bio weapon testing and so on. There is also a problem associated with the air plane exhaust pollution and that is global dimming as seen in the bbc documentary global dimming. Which is actually counter to the popular greenhouse effect.
http://www.nr23.net/govt/spray.htm http://www.examiner.com/article/ukraine-swine-flu-deaths-indicate-h1n1-vaccine-and-biological-weapon-link http://www.dailypaul.com/115003/chinese-military-reports-bio-weapon-planes-sprayed-ukraine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8RyNSzQDaU
"Eventually I came to conclusion that the trails are actually airplane exhaust."
Your conclusion is wrong. Commercial airplanes don't create giant grid patterns with their exhaust. Nor does their exhaust expand out and turn into weird long clouds. And as I mentioned, the chemtrail planes don't fly along commerical plane routes. of course, your research totally ignores that.
Do some more research. Its real. Although, it might be easier to live in denial.
If you see them doing it take the time and temperature and do the same thing 24 hours from then. My guess is that it is significantly cooler the next day.
Your conclusion is wrong. Commercial airplanes don't create giant grid patterns with their exhaust. Nor does their exhaust expand out and turn into weird long clouds. And as I mentioned, the chemtrail planes don't fly along commerical plane routes. of course, your research totally ignores that. Do some more research. Its real. Although, it might be easier to live in denial.
The idea that it is plane exhaust came to me one day when I was driving past a large commercial airport and that sky was full with chemtrails in the flight path. As I said not all chemtrails are airplane exhaust some may very well be malicious but the vast majority are plane exhaust. Economically it is not feasible that all these chemtrails are malicious spraying.
Contrails is just the plane engine exhaust becoming non visible due to the climate conditions at the time. They are not condensation as the planes do not emit water vapour they emit pollution, carbon monoxide and various other types of pollutants particle matter (smoke) and so on.
Regardless of the veracity of chemtrails, exhaust from airplanes most certainly contains water--water is present in any hydrocarbon based combustion reaction. Where do you think the hydrogen atoms go?
Ok yes it has water (even poisonous chemicals can be 75% water, does not make them "water") in it but the idea that the plane exhaust is emitting harmless water vapour is incorrect. It emits pollution, primarily carbon monoxide.
Aristophanes: Call it what it is, Geoengineering. They are creating metal coated clouds; what is complicated about that? You should care if people laugh because...you will be wasting your time if you tell them about it and they laugh... Chemtrails is a loaded term for intended for ... well, the less intelligent. The Jesse Ventura conspiracy show types.
Can you provide more information on this? I've only seen the movie "What in the World Are They Spraying" and while it was interesting, it was just a movie. I've been noticing these a lot more lately after watching that movie. It's strange to me why some of the "contrails" disappear in seconds while at the same time the "chemtrails" (which look really "juicy" and spread out) stay in the sky for hours. I realize it could be differences in water vapor at different altitudes but I'm not well-versed in this type of science.
"The idea that it is plane exhaust came to me one day when I was driving past a large commercial airport and that sky was full with chemtrails in the flight path."
I live next to an airport and some distance from another airport. I have never seen any contrails from planes flying to either airport.
Even Contintental, etc planes that fly very high, don't leave any contrails.
And of course, as I said before, chemtrail planes don't use the commerical flight paths. They fly all over the place making grid patterns and criss crosses all over the sky. Usually, their chemtrails are sprayed in an area that block the sun.
When is this spraying supposed to have started? Maybe I just looked at the sky more as a kid, but the trails seemed to occur far more often in the late 70's when I was a kid. It was common for me to see 3 or more at a time crossing the entire sky. Nowadays I rarely see them, I assumed plane emissions were improved curtailing the trails.
http://web.archive.org/web/19990503013500/ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-08-05.html
The military started biological research in the 60s and 70s...so they have been spraying the unknowing public with shit since then. It started out as harmless bacteria dumps at certain places in the jet stream allegedly to see how quickly a real weapon would spread. Who knows what they are up to today...
From Malachi's article:
at Edgar has been watching the jets spraying over eastern Oklahoma since a sunny day in October, 1977 when as many as 30 contrails gradually occluded the sky. "They look like they're playing tic-tac-toe up there," he says. "You know darn well it's not passenger planes."
reading further, that might be a typo...
1949 U.S. Army begins 20 years of simulated germ warfare attacks against American cities, conducting at least 239 open air tests.