Why are there so few libertarian women?
somone is scaring them away?
is it you !?
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alimentarius: Why are there so few libertarian women?
I don't think this is necessarily true. It just happens to be that the majority of people who discuss on online forums are male (at least, when it comes to general topics, as opposed to topics such as "feminist studies").
First, I don't know what the importance of this question is, and I'm not going to make a comment about it.
Second, I'll take a stab.
From what I can tell, men are more likely to be on the extremes of any bell curve than women. The philosophy of libertarianism doesn't seem to be something out of the ordinary, or commonplace, or not extreme.
This paper really helped in my understanding of some of the differences between men and women:
Is There Anything Good About Men?: http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm
Why are there so few women in general active in the philosophical side of any radical or political movement? I think it's partly acculturation and social influence, and partially nature.
“Laws: We know what they are, and what they are worth! They are spider webs for the rich and mighty, steel chains for the poor and weak, fishing nets in the hands of the government.” - Proudhon
There are plenty of female libertarians if you know where to look (Facebook).
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Gender would have been less misleading in the title.
Bossism.
scineram: Gender would have been less misleading in the title.
Yea, I expected a more interesting subject.
Sexual penetration is a violation of private property !!!!!!
Jonathan M. F. Catalán: scineram: Gender would have been less misleading in the title. Yea, I expected a more interesting subject.
I've been wanting to discuss this section of von Mises' Socialism vs. Rothbard-Evers contract theory. I think it can round out a lot of the touchy subjects we get into when discussing voluntarily assumed positive obligations.
Democracy means the opportunity to be everyone's slave.—Karl Kraus.
Well, the libertarian movement is in favour of non-oppression. Individuals tend to fight for ideologies they believe to be in their class interest. So, libertarians tend to be smarter, more affluent, male, heterosexual, white, Christian, healthy, productive, tax-paying (if they can't avoid it), attractive, proud, and any other politically incorrect quality.
I've found that if you scratch away the superficial political cliches and with a little bit of intensive questioning most self-sufficient, industrious people are actually libertarians... they just don't know it yet.
Stephen:Individuals tend to fight for ideologies they believe to be in their class interest.
Individuals tend to fight for ideologies they believe to be in their class interest.
Or maybe some people just like the thought of freedom.
Life and reality are neither logical nor illogical; they are simply given. But logic is the only tool available to man for the comprehension of both.—Ludwig von Mises
Life and reality are neither logical nor illogical; they are simply given. But logic is the only tool available to man for the comprehension of both.
Libertarians tend to be Christian?
Why there are so few libertarians period ?
It should read like that!
Justin Spahr-Summers: Stephen: Individuals tend to fight for ideologies they believe to be in their class interest. Or maybe some people just like the thought of freedom.
Stephen: Individuals tend to fight for ideologies they believe to be in their class interest.
I think it depends alot on whether you are on the giving or recieving end of redistribution.
alimentarius: Libertarians tend to be Christian?
K, look. I'm guessing.
But I think you will find a higher percentage of libertarians are Christian than the percentage relative to the general population.
liberty student: alimentarius: Why are there so few libertarian women? Bossism.
Are you saying women are bossy?
Yeah, that is total nonsense.
Stephen:K, look. I'm guessing. But I think you will find a higher percentage of libertarians are Christian than the percentage relative to the general population.
You're trying to make generalizations about demographics without even some statistics. It's just shooting in the dark. The only think I know is true, is that it is mostly males, and mostly Caucasians, but that has more to do with the institutions of outreach to non-libertarians than it has to do with the supremacy of males or whites.
Stephen:Are you saying women are bossy?
It's a joke aimed at the libertarian-left. They believe all sorts of -isms are the issue.
I'm making a guess based on the simple theory that libertarian ideas tend appeal to people who have more to gain by there implementation, hence people most politically oppressed.
February 17 - 1600 - Giordano Bruno is burnt alive by the catholic church. Aquinas : "much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to death."
I didn't say most. But yes, whites, males, and christians tend to be net losers when it comes to redistribution.
Edit: I did say most. Sorry Juan.
Stephen:I'm making a guess based on the simple theory that libertarian ideas tend appeal to people who have more to gain by there implementation, hence people most politically oppressed.
I avoid making guesses based on poor theories. YMMV.
I can't blame them. I don't have much to do with the libertarian party or them in general. Sine it's mostly a political thing in some ways (eventhough a dreadful failure), it tends to bore me to tears hearing people talk about the constitution, the cult of the founding fathers, or even worse Cato Institute articles or Milton Friedman. Though, I do like Mary Ruwart and was surprised she almost was nominated instead of the two chumps they chose instead. (her book Healing Our World in an Age of Aggression is very good).
Maybe they're scared of all the guys with guns in their holsters at all the meet ups and events.
liberty student: Stephen:I'm making a guess based on the simple theory that libertarian ideas tend appeal to people who have more to gain by there implementation, hence people most politically oppressed. I avoid making guesses based on poor theories. YMMV.
The social sciences are not like the natural sciences. In the natural sciences, when you make a mistake, you bear the cost of the mistake. For example, if you jump off a tall building hoping that gravity will carry you up instead of down, nobody else will smash into the ground. You would do that all on your own. In the social sciences, you may bear the cost, but the possibility also exists that other people will bear the cost and you might actually benefit. For example, if you're a communist dictator and believe that instituting socialism will bring about a garden of Eden on earth, and you're wrong, you still get a cushy job and material comfort out of it.
Material incentives affect receptiveness to social ideas.
Stephen: christians tend to be net losers when it comes to redistribution.
christians tend to be net losers when it comes to redistribution.
Really? Is that why public money goes to "faith-based charities", the building of the 10 commandments, and emblazoning "In God We Trust" and "Under God" everywhere?
Periodically the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.
Thomas Jefferson
Woman can be Christians, goof.
alimentarius:Why are there so few libertarian women?
Because they don't want to give up their state privileges. It is the same with any person. The State coddles them in the west and acts as husband and father when they get bored with their boyfriends/husbands.
The State will give them more resources than any one man, except donald trump.
That is my guess anyway. Read Menckens "In Defense of Women" It has a good answer, as to why?
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Wanderer:Really? Is that why public money goes to "faith-based charities", the building of the 10 commandments, and emblazoning "In God We Trust" and "Under God" everywhere?
Whatsamatter, haven't you seen all of the black lesbian atheists living it up at the expense of poor whitey?
Wanderer: Stephen: christians tend to be net losers when it comes to redistribution. Really? Is that why public money goes to "faith-based charities", the building of the 10 commandments, and emblazoning "In God We Trust" and "Under God" everywhere?
I was thinking more along the lines of compulsory public education teaching anti-Chistian values to Christians. Also, you should notice the word net.
Three steps left, two steps right consolidate and start again. Divide and conquer.
I'm not talking about republicans and democrats here, I'm talking about the State.
liberty student: Wanderer:Really? Is that why public money goes to "faith-based charities", the building of the 10 commandments, and emblazoning "In God We Trust" and "Under God" everywhere? Whatsamatter, haven't you seen all of the black lesbian atheists living it up at the expense of poor whitey?
I'm also starting to think that domestically born blacks and native indians are net losers as a result of anti-discriminative legislation, just because they aren't very politically correct minorities any more. Right now, arab muslims, south asians, and first generation Africans are what is fashionable.
Stephen: Wanderer: Stephen: christians tend to be net losers when it comes to redistribution. Really? Is that why public money goes to "faith-based charities", the building of the 10 commandments, and emblazoning "In God We Trust" and "Under God" everywhere? I was thinking more along the lines of compulsory public education teaching anti-Chistian values to Christians. Also, you should notice the word net.
Non-religious people in the United States tend to be better educated and more affluent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_United_States#Demographics
Thus, they pay a disproportionate level of taxes. What anti-Christian values are taught in public schools? I'm not saying public schooling is a good thing, but what are you talking about?
I guess the ones most complained about are evolutionary theory, anti-homophobia, sex education, cultural relativism, handing out condoms, and so on.
Juan:I guess that a white male christian like, say, bush, or rumsfeld (christian?) is an example of oppressed people while blacks who are in jail because they are not white, are members of the 'ruling class'.
Wow Juan, you've transformed miscontruing into a fine art.
I'm libertarian and fully enjoy sex.