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Iron Man 2: Anyone seen it yet? (SPOILERS WARNING!)

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DanielMuff Posted: Sat, May 8 2010 4:38 PM

Is it just me or is this movie about private defense agencies (Stark Industries) versus the corporatist state (Hammer Industries and the State)? I couldn't find anything about Stark and Stark Industries that wasn't compatible with an-cap. I mean, sure Stark got a medal from the government and  decides to consult for S.H.I.E.L.D. at the end of the movie, but it seems immaterial to rest of the movie. I kinda wish they would make a prequel to Iron Man 2 where they show how Stark "successfully privatizes world peace." 

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Only saw the first Iron Man.  I wouldn't go that far.  Just a rich guy using his talent advantage for anti-establishment purposes.

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"successfully privatizes world peace."

That line was awesome. Went to see the movie with some friends, and one of them is a self-proclaimed socialist. Har har.

The scene right before that quote was great.

I never expected there to be undertones of PDA vs. the State in the first movie or in this one. It does seem to be some kind of theme, though. Usually, movies are very statist, especially the hollywood ones.

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Stark Industries is not a PDA.  It's a weapons manufacturer.

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Iron man is a PDA. :p

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Is it just me, or did Metal Gear Solid 4 coin the term PDA? I never saw it used here until AFTER that game was released.

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Personally, to me, a PDA is one of those things rich people, those with company benefits and Americans use instead of mobile phones. "Private military contractors" or "mercenaries" would be the closest word in my mental dictionary for such a concept.

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MB replied on Mon, May 10 2010 3:36 PM

PDA = Public displays of affection (holding hands, hugging, kissing)

PDA= Personal Digital Assistant

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How, then, did Stark privatize world peace if not as a PDA?

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Bert replied on Mon, May 10 2010 5:01 PM

As a theater worker I must tell everyone to throw away your trash (unless it's AMC).

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"Is it just me, or did Metal Gear Solid 4 coin the term PDA? I never saw it used here until AFTER that game was released."

I don't recall ever hearing the term "PDA" ever being referenced in MGS4, the term PMC was used every other sentence, but not PDA

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William replied on Mon, May 10 2010 5:21 PM

The movie was OK, but the 1st one was better by a long mile (the only superhero movies I liked better were the 2 Chris Nolan Batman movies).  It was still one of the better superhero movies, and it was fun to have a somewhat more blatent non left wing character on screen (plus  Iron Man is one of my favorite superheroes). 

Still their were some major flaws in the film such as it focusing too much as an Avengers movie prequal, the pointlessness of the Black Widow character, plus I giggle uncontollably  everytime I see Samuel Jackson on screen anymore.

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I like Batman and Batman Returns. Although, I haven't compared them to Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. 

Anyway, I think Sam Jackson was in the movie only because of his 9-picture deal. Also, I can't wait till the Black Widow movie.

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William replied on Mon, May 10 2010 5:38 PM

I don't think I can even watch Batman and Batman Returns anymore.  I used to like them, but Begins and especially TDK were just that awesome.

An actual Black Widow movie would be awsome, I always liked her character in the comics, plus Johansen is one of the few current hollywood actersses I find insanely hot.

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Bert replied on Mon, May 10 2010 5:40 PM

I like the concept of Iron Man above all other super heroes (unlike just being born a super hero from another planet or being bit by a spider and still being a scrawny loser).  I'd have to say my top three are Iron Man, Batman, and Rorshach.

I read that Sam Jackson won't be in the Thor movie.  I can't remember if Thor or Captain America comes out next.  I heard they'll be having Batman in the Avenger's movie...

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"I'd have to say my top three are Iron Man, Batman, and Rorshach."

Rorshach is the best superhero ever.... The end.

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Bert replied on Mon, May 10 2010 6:30 PM

Rorshach is the best superhero ever.... The end.

He's the most badass.  I read his character was influenced by Rand.

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Sieben replied on Mon, May 10 2010 7:28 PM

What about Butcher, from The Boys

It can't be argued without having read it though... :(
 

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Bert replied on Mon, May 10 2010 7:49 PM

I mean, sure Stark got a medal from the government and  decides to consult for S.H.I.E.L.D. at the end of the movie, but it seems immaterial to rest of the movie.

I thought Stark wanted the medal as he felt that the government should show him some respect (and getting Stern to put it on him), and that the reason he would consult S.H.I.E.L.D. was that they couldn't "afford" him.  (I haven't watched the movie in full, yet.  This is what I get from walking in the theater numerous times a day).

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"He's the most badass.  I read his character was influenced by Rand."

How exactly? Besides the fact that he claims everyone who's against him is a communist?

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Bert replied on Mon, May 10 2010 9:09 PM

How exactly? Besides the fact that he claims everyone who's against him is a communist?

This is just what I read on Wikipedia (which is no longer there).  At the end he was the most angered about the killing of people for world peace, and believed there was "no compromise in the face of fear".  Here's an article from Reason about Rorshach being an Objectivist.

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