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Any Leftist you talk to, have them read this

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Phaedros replied on Mon, May 30 2011 10:34 PM

It's surprising to see that on the HUffington Post. Ariana Huffington is the most irksome person Ive ever heard speak. :S Nice article though. I've been reading Plauche's dissertation and I think people on the left will find it inspiring. http://www.google.com/search?q=plauche+dissertation&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a  (first result)

For example this is an amazing quote, "Politics ceases to be immanent, and becomes increasingly vicarious until it is nonexistent or is replaced by despotical rule, under at least three conditions:
1) the extent that it is conducted only by representatives, 2) the extent to which discourse and
deliberation are separated from their culmination in direct action, and 3) the extent that rights-
violating behavior (the threat or use of initiatory physical force) pervades the relationship."

Also, this, "Rather than a monocentric legal system with predominantly legislative laws, a free and flourishing
society will possess a polycentric legal system with predominantly customary laws. A
monocentric legal system is one in which a single organization (generally the state) monopolizes
through institutionalized aggression the promulgation of laws and provision of legal services. A
polycentric legal system is one in which the law and legal services are provided by multiple,
freely competing associations and organizations with overlapping jurisdictions."

I didn't want to take this thread off topic by the way, I was hoping that the Plauche dissertation would be a nice supplement to the article because it provides a moral and philosophical basis for liberty and free markets that is really well thought out.

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MrSchnapps replied on Mon, May 30 2011 10:36 PM

This article is for the superficial people who are hung up on the emotional baggage tied to labels like 'left' and 'right'. And for that I suppose it does a good job.

I have one quasi-socialist friend coming into town soon, and I'll be hanging out with another (again quasi-socialist) as well. I'm thinking of printing each of them off a copy of The Law by Bastiat. It's short, pithy, and to the point. I think it should do the job fairly nicely. Hopefully, anyway.

The thing is, both of them are really into civil liberties. They just can't seem to bring it to the economic sphere. Any literature I give them should push them in that area. I'm not, after all, talking with neo-conservatives here.

 

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Autolykos replied on Mon, May 30 2011 10:41 PM

Robin Koerner:
This fundamental asymmetry between Left and Right is the clue to how they can come together: Conservatives can maintain their belief that traditionally Liberal methods don't serve liberal outcomes, while still validating the intentions of liberals; and liberals can continue to insist on their good social goals (intentions) while acknowledging that the conservative claim that government is an ineffective means of achieving lasting social good is reasonable -- and does not make conservatives any less concerned with fairness, social justice or any other social good.

Isn't there a name for this? :P

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John James replied on Mon, May 30 2011 10:43 PM

MrSchnapps:
This article is for the superficial people who are hung up on the emotional baggage tied to labels like 'left' and 'right'.

...In other words, most Americans. wink

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I recently re-read this and just felt it deserves a bump.

 

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Neodoxy replied on Sun, Sep 4 2011 4:20 PM

... Link is down.

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Joe replied on Mon, Sep 5 2011 11:08 AM

more RP love from the HP    Are we living in bizzaro world?

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z1235 replied on Mon, Sep 5 2011 1:40 PM

Excellent article.

 

 

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skylien replied on Mon, Sep 5 2011 1:54 PM

Great article. Thanks James!

Already the second article that pushes Ron Paul that I see there. See this one: I voted for Obama now I'm voting for Ron Paul.

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The full link works. Just click the lower one.

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"I want the world to be a clean and healthy paradise (italics mine)". Keep dreaming kid.

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"I want the world to be a clean and healthy paradise (italics mine)". Keep dreaming kid.

At least under the current system yes.

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Joe:
more RP love from the HP    Are we living in bizzaro world?

For more, see here.

 

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skylien replied on Tue, Sep 6 2011 1:01 AM

John James:
Joe:
more RP love from the HP    Are we living in bizzaro world?

For more, see here.

Ups… If you are late it would be advantageous if one would at least read carefully the last 3 posts… Sorry ;)

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