http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELEwjVRxxGE
I'd embed it if i could...an awesome episode of rap news featuring ron paul talking about the economy.
The best part is when they mock Joacque Fresco and the Venus Project. "That's the light, see. *Grabs nipple* agh, my love, my aphrodite." hahaha
Should help to bring his awareness
Entertaining enough I guess, but I'm trying to figure out how exactly they see Paul. First he was Mack Brown, then he turned into Polly the Parrot, then the Leprechaun, then a combination of all three. Maybe they should just stick to rapping and not attempt actual impressions. It seems like the took lessons from the best...which isn't so great.
Ultimately stuff like this really just disappoints me because for all it's cleverness and entertainment value, it really does quite little to enlighten the uneducated viewer. I guarantee anyone who didn't start into that knowing what's what, came out more confused than when he went in. I mean, publicity is nice, but if someone doesn't know anything about Paul, he largely comes off as a kook...especially when you spar him off with zeitgeist nonsense and make him talk like Warwick Davis. And with the way they misrepresented Paul being all about a gold standard, I actually wonder if they didn't do that ridiculous Leprecaun accent on purpose. I wouldn't have been surprised if they came right out and had him say something about his "pot o' gold".
And by the epilogue, you'd think they would at least try to pick a side and sum things up and reach some kind of conclusion. But the video doesn't even do that. After sufficiently confusing the viewer and getting him to think of Ron Paul as on the same level with the Venus Project, the MC leaves us with "our real economy is something much broader, its GDP measures not by out ability to horde but our capacity to re-learn and earn our place in nature's order and thus remain on this planet arc, our Pandora."
Wow. It would have been a lot simpler to just say "we need to stop fighting with each other and learn to compromise so we can start living in harmony with our fragile planet, and we need to quit fooling around and roll up our sleeves and get to work."
Thanks for nothing, rap guy.
P.S.
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The Venus Project is wacky. Suggesting that the Venus Project and Ron Paul offer equally serious alternatives at opposite ends of some spectrum of thought is bizarre and appears to be a very lame attempt to diminuate RP. The caricature of Ron Paul as a bible-thumper is downright stupid. Apparently, they just read a Democrat-party talking points memo on RP, watched a Maddow interview and then slapped this video together.
Clayton -
JJ, that last thing is not a link.
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wow. buncha downers in here.
So what if it is geared toward a liberal audience. They are from the UK and Australia this is how they see things. This one lets Paul off easy (cause there is little negative to report) and it does not put Venus anywhere near Paul's solution. The end is just a joke. and it makes the founder (if you wanna call him that..) of VP to be a complete nut. My gripe with it is Adam Smith rather than Mises or Hayek or Rothbard. And liberal anarchists are generally environmentalists and not in favor of property rights. That is what makes us different.
Watch Rap News #8 or #5 or #6 and everyone in here will commend all of them.
And yea, it isn't geared toward people who aren't informed enough to make sense of it...or put it into proper perspective, then examining it...
That's geared to a liberal audience? Could have fooled me.
@Aristophanes: Caricature, particularly humorous caricature, is fine with me... the problem with this caricature is that it is not an exaggeration of Ron Paul, it's an exaggeration of something/someone else. This is either a result of the ignorance of the producer or it's meant to be misleading. Either way, I'm less than impressed.
"the problem with this caricature is that it is not an exaggeration of Ron Paul, it's an exaggeration of something/someone else."
could you expand? Goldie the Gold bot? vs. the depopulation robot?
They know Julian Assange. They have a Euroliberal POV. Wars are bad, american empire, human rights, banks are bad, libertine, religion in USA is more serious, Israel is taboo, people are bad (usually depopulation, but not in Robert Foster's case).
Euro liberal POV agreeances with Paul: American Empire, Wars are bad, banks are bad, most importantly they both tell people that we live beyond our means. That is all people need to wrap their heard around to see materialism and consumerism and exceptionalism for what they are...delusions.
It also might be fair to not take the last words out of context.
"Well, dear viewers, that should buy us a bit of time to share a thought before we end for the night Our global oikonomia does seem in peril will the household even be here tomorrow?
Uncertainty is the only stock that's always been rising And now we’re losing “confidence”, but is it surprising? has it not all been a gamble from the first seed we planted to margin calls on the vagaries of the FTSE100?
Well, seems we’ve come to our global auditing, Our financial Day of Reckoning. It's an interesting quandary. Have we invested too much in this enterprise to admit the solution might lie in its very demise?
For our real economy is something much broader: its GDP measured, not by our ability to hoard but our capacity to relearn and earn our place in nature's order and thus remain on this planet ark - our Pandora."
I didn't think there was any context for it to be taken out of. I didn't feel it was necessary to transcribe all that other nonsense. It's still more of the same useless jumble.
Even the parts you highlighted as if they were useful in some way. Again think about it from a layman's perspective. They don't know what a margin call is, and I doubt even most Britons know what the FTSE 100 is...and even I had to look up what a "vagary" was. All they hear is:
"global peril, losing confidence, casino analogy, finance jargon, finance jargon, biblical allusion, financial jargon, implication that the Venus Project is right and 'capitalism has failed' so the solution is its demise so that we can build a new 'resource-based' economy; finance jargon, faux high note for the future to end on, mythological allusion for intellectual dramatic effect."
Again, I guarantee you can even present the written lyrics to someone and they won't be able ot make heads or tails of it.
Now that I've had the opportunity to actually read the words it just disappoints me even more. At the very least this video will confuse viewers, and will actually quite possibly leave them with false impressions, and faulty conclusions. As I said, thanks for nothing, rap guy.
I think your head is a little far up your ass.
You sound like you think everyone but you is an idiot. That no one could, without your help of course, dissect all that is there. It is far too complicated for people other than you...
Even the parts you highlighted as if they were useful in some way. Again think about it from a layman's perspective. They don't know what a margin call is, and I doubt even most Britons know what the FTSE 100 is...and even I had to look up what a "vagary" was.
The implication being that you are an index of rational ideas and suitable logic for everyone. The VP is made out to be retarded "the VP is 2 such "-isms" socialism and theism." He's obviously not touting that. "Even I..." hahaha God, you are a internet King, aren't you?
I highlighted the parts that are getting at the conclusion. Because you took it out of context, apparently, in a state of complete ignorance as to why context is relevant to quoting other people....
I didn't think there was any context for it to be taken out of.
People cannot be force fed information. These videos cram a lot of things into them you cannot nit pick a foreigners perspective of US politics simply because you swim in it's intricacies on the mises forums all day long.
It's a satire man, get overself and your egoism. And the lyrics are at reverbnation i didn't "transcribe" them. You need to get laid or drink a beer. or both...
Aristophanes: I think your head is a little far up your ass. You sound like you think everyone but you is an idiot. That no one could, without your help of course, dissect all that is there. It is far too complicated for people other than you...
If that's the conclusion you've reached you might want to take your head out of your own. I never presumed to know virutally anything those guys were trying to say. I just know who Ron Paul really is, and I know what the Venus Project is and what it advocates, and I understand the causes and remedies to the financial crisis and the economic problems. I thought I made it clear I couldn't be sure what the heck those guys were trying to say, and yes, forgive me if you think this is presumptuous, but I feel pretty confident I know a thing or two more about economics and finance in general (not to mention the specifics of the current crisis and its roots) than the average Joe American. And as I said, if I didn't have such a firm foundation in finance and Austrian economics, as well as a comprehensive knowledge of the facts, I would have been thoroughly confused by that whole thing.
The only reason I wasn't was because of that prior knowledge and education. That doesn't mean I had any clue what those guys were trying to say. I just know the reality of the topics they brought up. If someone wants that rap video explained, I'll be the first one to tell you, I'm not your guy.
And that's the point I was making from the very beginning. I know all about Ron Paul, what his positions are and the logic and reasonings behind them and I know all about the Venus project, I've seen all the Zeitgest films, I've listened to hours of interview with Peter Joseph. So I know about the things they were talking about. And I still couldn't make heads or tails of what they were trying to say, let alone determine any conclusions they reached or any prescriptions they made or any notions they supported. The only thing I could be sure of was that they (in my opinion unfairly) made Ron Paul look like a kook, and misrepresented his policy prescriptions multiple times.
Which is why I said it was a disappointing video, as had I know already known who Paul was and what his actual views were, I would have come out with an overall negative opinion of him, and would be at the very least just as uneducated about the finacial crisis as when I went in...if not more confused.
I don't think people need me to explain that video to them because I don't understand it myself. I have no idea what they were trying to say, and for that reason I feel like it's a missed opportunity for them to help educate people.
The implication being that you are an index of rational ideas and suitable logic for everyone. The VP is made out to be retarded "the VP is 2 such "-isms" socialism and theism." He's obviously not touting that.
If you say so. Wasn't clear to me. But again, what do I know?
"Even I..." hahaha God, you are a internet King, aren't you?
No, I just spent a lot of time on education and have a pretty good English vocaulary. And most Americans don't. Or, would you like to argue the point that the typical American does know what a margin call is, what the FTSE 100 is, and what "vagary" means?
No, I understand why context is relevant. But I also understand when and what context is relevant. And I said, for all of that extra drivel you added, none of it made one bit of difference to changing the meaning or making that closing statement any more clear, understandable, or educational.
People cannot be force fed information. These videos cram a lot of things into them
Uh, okay. And? I didn't tell them to "cram a lot of things" into their videos so as to make them inaccessible to the average person. Did you? What you're saying is the equivalent of "Hey that guy worked really hard to learn to play that piano and sing that song. It took a lot for him to do what he did there."
I say that's great, but simply working hard on something, or managing to "cram a lot of things" into one long rap video doesn't make it useful or effective. It's like you're saying the quality of what they created should be judged on some kind of sliding scale, or a curve, based on how much crap they tried to tackle with a single video. I guess I just don't look at things like that. Something is either effective or it isn't. I don't really think it matters what someone was attempting to do, or how much they took on. If they took on too much and it hurt their overall performance, I don't say "Hey, that was a lot of work, and they really shot for the moon on that one so that should count for something." I'm not a public school teacher.
you cannot nit pick a foreigners perspective of US politics simply because you swim in it's intricacies on the mises forums all day long.
Oh gag me. I wasn't "nit picking foreigners perspectives of US politics". As I said I didn't even recognize any perspectives given. And I certainly didn't notice any discussion of American politics. And I didn't even know they were foreigners.
But most importantly, if you'd keep your panties from getting so twisted and actually read what was written instead of getting so emotionally affected, you'd see I was criticizing the effectiveness of the video. My comments had absolutely nothing to do with any views expressed by those kids...quite simply because I still don't have any clue what their views even are. They certainly weren't made clear in the video. And that was actually my whole point. Nothing was made clear in the video. Not the positions of the video makers, not the positions of those the figures they featured in the video, not the relevant facts surrounding the causes or history of the topics they talk about, not any specific prescriptions for moving forward, not even an endorsment of someone else's ideas. It was just an entertaining jumble of rhythm and lyrics.
I don't see how anyone could have gotten much out of it. If you went into it not knowing much, I don't see how you wouldn't come out just as, if not more confused than when you went in, and if you did know something about what they ended up talking about, you more than likely weren't taught anything new. As I said, clever and entertaining enough, but disappointing and a missed opportunity.
I'm sorry that you took my criticism of a crappy rap video so personally. You posted it in a thread of its own (as opposed to the low content thread), which makes it even more inviting of feedback. So I offered my thoughts on it. I didn't realize you'd be so emotionally affected as to feel the need to attack me personally.
But at least you've made it pretty clear the America envy is still alive and well in Britain. You might actually take your own advice, and try not to worry so much about what the other kids are up to.
i read the last line and took the advice. Good call out after that chapter . I also am an American. Living in America.
Aristophanes:I also am an American. Living in America.
Again, could have fooled me.
I wouldn't think anyone other than a Briton would have cared so much that they were British. Again, didn't realize you would be so emotionally affected. Perhaps a disclaimer next time, informing viewers personal attacks will follow any criticism of crappy videos you happen to think are "awesome."