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Re: Best way to fight taxation.

The Rev — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:58:28 GMT

It's pretty hard to avoid taxes when you have to have a job, and are therefore subject to withholding. It's also hard to avoid when you use dollars, which are subject to taxation through inflation.

In order to avoid taxes altogether, you would have to divorce yourself from society, and do business with other divorcees with a medium of exchange other than dollars, like gold. Think Galt's Gulch.

The Rev

Re: Best way to fight taxation.

Jason — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:42:32 GMT

Well, I am not sure how the government would know anyway. If there is no paperwork and you were quiet about it, not making alot of money and getting greedy. I can't imagine it being that hard. The only reason some get caught is because they are too open about it, like the mafia. They tried to get rich off there black market activities, which is noble, but stupid these days.

I guess I get sooo..... tired of the rhetoric that I am tired of just talking. When someone says, "give me liberty or give me death" we must mean it. Not in just some abstract way of begging for our liberty but actually taking our liberty, being free.

Re: Best way to fight taxation.

bearing01 — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:38:22 GMT

1. Go on welfare.

2. Leave the country and give up US citizenship (Americans have to file and pay US taxes when living abroad if they make more than $87k per year).

3. Vote Libertarian or pray that Ron Paul is our next president.

Re: Best way to fight taxation.

wilderness — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:22:28 GMT

Jason:

What would you say is the best way to fight taxation? My opinnion is to not pay it rather than protest it. Why should we do something as weak as protest for a God given right? We should refuse to pay and mind our own business. Maybe at most convince others not to pay. Start antistate groups where everyone covenants, to not pay there taxes and vow's violence for anyone who attempts to make them.

That is strong not weak.

What say ye?

That is principled. I agree. But obviously the society of non-taxpayers would have to be large enough to defend themselves. Would we win or die? I don't know, but obviously we couldn't just start today or we would die or be imprisoned and I'm thinking long term strategy so that's not an option. Here's an interesting historical account on the Amish and their struggle to not pay Social Security taxes. The Amish actually won and don't have to pay them. But there you go, they had a society already that didn't compromise their principles. Here's the link (if this is true of course, but I don't have a second source to verify):

http://ask.yahoo.com/20030821.html

I went around on the internet and found a second source that gathers it's information directly from the Amish and so this is verified (the historical account though is not verified on this link, but the "not paying of Social Security" and the reason due to their principles is verified here):

http://www.800padutch.com/amishpeople.shtml

Re: Best way to fight taxation.

fezwhatley — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:15:14 GMT

teabagging

Best way to fight taxation.

Jason — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:07:22 GMT

What would you say is the best way to fight taxation? My opinnion is to not pay it rather than protest it. Why should we do something as weak as protest for a God given right? We should refuse to pay and mind our own business. Maybe at most convince others not to pay. Start antistate groups where everyone covenants, to not pay there taxes and vow's violence for anyone who attempts to make them.

That is strong not weak.

What say ye?