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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Current Events</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/197.aspx</link><description>Politics, disasters, war and peace.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Re: Man who found — and sold — the missing iPhone unmasked (any thoughts on this)</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/329285.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 17:59:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:329285</guid><dc:creator>Wibee</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/329285.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=197&amp;PostID=329285</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	I had thoughts, but this site sucks now with the new forum upgrades. &amp;nbsp;lost a lot of my comments. &amp;nbsp;basiclly, it&amp;#39;s apples fault for not safeguarding their secrets. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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	This is how the story should have happened.&lt;/p&gt;
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	Apple requests return of their iphone. &amp;nbsp;Gizmo complies. &amp;nbsp;End of story. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Man who found — and sold — the missing iPhone unmasked (any thoughts on this)</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/329173.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 01:30:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:329173</guid><dc:creator>onebornfree</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/329173.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=197&amp;PostID=329173</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	This seem s pretty &amp;quot;cut and dried&amp;quot; to me , assuming the accuracy of the story source.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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	He knew it was not his.&lt;/p&gt;
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	He left the premises with it .&lt;/p&gt;
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	Instead of handing it in [preferably with a witness] to the bar manager or owner, he took it home, did not try to contact the owner, did not place an ad in the paper [Lost and Found section], or even on a local &amp;quot;Craig&amp;#39;s List or similar, but instead proceeded to try and sell it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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	Regards, onebornfree.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Man who found — and sold — the missing iPhone unmasked (any thoughts on this)</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/328909.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:20:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:328909</guid><dc:creator>Jeremiah Dyke</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/328909.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=197&amp;PostID=328909</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;--It seems pretty lame to be charged with theft when a man lost his cell phone, but maybe i&amp;#39;m missing something thing...thought on the story?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_gadg/ytech_gadg_tc1874"&gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_gadg/ytech_gadg_tc1874&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Twenty-one-year-old Redwood City, California, resident Brian J. &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_0" style="border-bottom:#366388 2px dotted;cursor:hand;"&gt;Hogan&lt;/span&gt;, the man identified by &lt;a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ytech_gadg/tc_ytech_gadg/storytext/ytech_gadg_tc1874/35989418/SIG=10ivcbc1q/*http://Wired.com"&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_1"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0058a6;"&gt;Wired.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; as the guy who found &amp;mdash; and later sold &amp;mdash; &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_2"&gt;Apple&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#39;s missing &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_3" style="border-bottom:#366388 2px dotted;cursor:hand;"&gt;iPhone&lt;/span&gt; in a bar last month, has a message for Apple, the engineer who originally lost the precious gadget, and the tech world at large: Sorry about that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Following a trail of &amp;quot;clues&amp;quot; on social-networking sites and confirming his ID with a source &amp;quot;involved in the iPhone find,&amp;quot; &lt;a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ytech_gadg/tc_ytech_gadg/storytext/ytech_gadg_tc1874/35989418/SIG=11plo05ve/*http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/iphone-finder/"&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_4"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0058a6;"&gt;Wired named Hogan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; on Thursday as the bar patron who &lt;a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/news/ytech_gadg/tc_ytech_gadg/storytext/ytech_gadg_tc1874/35989418/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_gadg/20100420/tc_ytech_gadg/ytech_gadg_tc1694"&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_5"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0058a6;"&gt;made off with Apple&amp;#39;s top-secret iPhone prototype&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and then sold it to &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_6" style="border-bottom:#366388 2px dotted;background:none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%;cursor:hand;"&gt;Gizmodo&lt;/span&gt; for $5,000 after an &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_7"&gt;Apple software engineer&lt;/span&gt; left the precious phone on a bar stool.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Up until now, Hogan&amp;#39;s identity has been a mystery to the public, but the 21-year-old college student (or at least, he was a college student as of 2008) may have sensed that he was in trouble after all the hoopla over Gizmodo&amp;#39;s gigantic iPhone scoop last week and the subsequent fallout, including &lt;a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/news/ytech_gadg/tc_ytech_gadg/storytext/ytech_gadg_tc1874/35989418/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_gadg/20100426/tc_ytech_gadg/ytech_gadg_tc1794"&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_8"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0058a6;"&gt;a raid on Gizmodo editor Jason Chen&amp;#39;s house&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_9" style="border-bottom:medium none;background:none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%;cursor:hand;"&gt;San Mateo sheriff&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#39;s deputies armed with a &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_10" style="border-bottom:medium none;background:none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%;cursor:hand;"&gt;search warrant&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hogan has now lawyered up, and in a statement released through his attorney, the young man says he &amp;quot;regrets his mistake in not doing more to return the phone,&amp;quot; and that he thought his $5,000 deal with Gizmodo was only &amp;quot;so that they could review the phone,&amp;quot; Wired reports.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to Hogan&amp;#39;s attorney&amp;#39;s statement, Hogan didn&amp;#39;t see the lost iPhone until another patron at the &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_11"&gt;Redwood City bar&lt;/span&gt; came up and asked him if it was his; Hogan apparently then asked a few other patrons if they&amp;#39;d lost the device before heading out, iPhone in hand, according to Wired.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Initial reports had it that the man who&amp;#39;d taken the iPhone tried repeatedly to call the &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_12"&gt;Apple&lt;/span&gt; Care support line to return the phone, but according to the statement in the Wired story, Hogan never personally called Apple, although a friend of his offered to. The owners of the bar where the iPhone was lost also told Wired that Hogan never bothered to call them about the lost hardware, although the anguished Apple engineer who mislaid the iPhone &amp;quot;returned several times&amp;quot; to see if it had turned up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, &lt;a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ytech_gadg/tc_ytech_gadg/storytext/ytech_gadg_tc1874/35989418/SIG=11keagl3a/*http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20003782-37.html"&gt;&lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_13"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0058a6;"&gt;CNET is reporting&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; that Hogan had help in finding a buyer for the lost iPhone. The &amp;quot;go-between,&amp;quot; according to CNET: 27-year-old Sage Robert Wallower, a &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_14"&gt;UC Berkeley student&lt;/span&gt; who &amp;quot;contacted technology sites&amp;quot; about the handset. Wallower told CNET that he &amp;quot;didn&amp;#39;t see it or touch it in any manner&amp;quot; but knows &amp;quot;who found it,&amp;quot; adding, &amp;quot;I need to speak to a lawyer ... I think I have said too much.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No one has been charged yet in the case of the lost iPhone, but a &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_15"&gt;deputy district attorney&lt;/span&gt; for &lt;span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272587454_16"&gt;San Mateo County&lt;/span&gt; tells Wired that Hogan is &amp;quot;very definitely ... being looked at as a suspect in theft.&amp;quot; (In California, finding a piece of lost property isn&amp;#39;t a case of &amp;quot;finders keepers&amp;quot;; if you find a lost item and keep it without making &amp;quot;reasonable&amp;quot; efforts to find the real owner, you could be charged with a crime.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gizmodo&amp;#39;s Jason Chen also has yet to be charged; law-enforcement officials have reportedly said they&amp;#39;ll hold off on searching the computers and servers seized from Chen&amp;#39;s house until they decide whether California&amp;#39;s shield law for journalists applies to him.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>