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Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

John James — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:21:44 GMT

mmmkay.

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

John Ess — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:15:16 GMT

Business insider has run an article that says "These time magazine covers explain why Americans know nothing about the world."

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

John James — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:11:52 GMT

John Ess:
AARP magazine has a circulation of about 22 million. Better Homes and Gardens 7 million. Game Informer 5 million. Nat Geo 4 million.

Yes, because I totally remember the last time the cover story of Better Homes and Gardens was discussed in the international news media.

enough to control the whole populace?

Who the hell said anything about that?

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

John Ess — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:03:49 GMT

It has a circulation of 3 million.

Let's say there equal subscribers in all those regions. That about 750,000 readers each. I don't know; is that going to be enough to control the whole populace?

AARP magazine has a circulation of about 22 million. Better Homes and Gardens 7 million. Game Informer 5 million. Nat Geo 4 million.

The times I've read Time magazine, it seems to be overwhelmingly global, liberal, and the usual feel-y goody type stuff. We can solve AIDS, defeat islamophobia, and show pictures of Bono! No matter what is on the cover.

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

John James — Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:51:03 GMT

Well, what do you expect when at least 30% of the news is US-centric no matter what country you're in

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

Jackson LaRose — Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:52:21 GMT

U.S. news also tends to be very "U.S.-centric". Far more than BBC, or Al-Jazeera. Not too many stories on CNN regarding Sub-Saharan Africa, that's for sure!

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

James — Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:01:55 GMT

Al-Jazeera is operated by a state-owned corporation in Qatar. US Cental Command HQ is in Qatar. The slant is anti-Iran, anti-Shia, pro-Al-Qaeda. I'd rather watch Russia Today - at least the Kremlin isn't a puppet of the United States.

That said, Al-Jazeera doesn't have much choice but to hire much higher quality journalists than an American network can dig up, so the programming will be of a higher quality - even if the coverage is selective.

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

Jackson LaRose — Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:51:43 GMT

Yes, yellow journalism is everywhere, unfortunately. Good thing we have the internet.

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

Marko — Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:51:04 GMT

Albeit to be certain Al-Jazeera can be utter crap when it suits them. They were as much of propagandists on Libya earlier this year as 1990s CNN was on the Balkans.

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

Jackson LaRose — Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:26:55 GMT

Yeah, not totally apples to apples, but I was trying to contrast what qualifies for news in the U.S., versus in other countries.

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

John James — Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:23:48 GMT

I didn't realize Al-Jazeera was a News Corp affiliate.

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

Jackson LaRose — Tue, 29 Nov 2011 04:28:45 GMT

Nothing new under the sun. Compare Al-Jazeera to Fox News. LOL.

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

Anarcho-libertarian — Tue, 29 Nov 2011 03:58:25 GMT

Aervew, what is your response to Rothbard in For A New Liberty?:

Television consists of bland programs and distorted news. Radio and television channels have been nationalized for half a century by the federal government, which grants channels as a gift to privileged licensees, and can and does withdraw these gifts when a station displeases the government’s Federal Communications Commission. How can any genuine freedom of speech or of the press exist under such conditions?...

Among the numerous direct invasions of freedom of speech exercised by the licensing power of the FRC and FCC, two cases will suffice. One was in 1931, when the FRC denied renewal of license to a Mr. Baker, who operated a radio station in Iowa. In denying renewal, the Commission said:

"This Commission holds no brief for the Medical Associations and other parties whom Mr. Baker does not like. Their alleged sins may be at times of public importance, to be called to the attention of the public over the air in the right way. But this record discloses that Mr. Baker does not do so in any high-minded way. It shows that he continually and erratically over the air rides a personal hobby, his cancer cure ideas and his likes and dislikes of certain persons and things. Surely his infliction of all this on the listeners is not the proper use of a broadcasting license. Many of his utterances are vulgar, if not indeed indecent. Assuredly they are not uplifting or entertaining."

Can we imagine the outcry if the federal government were to put a newspaper or a book publisher out of business on similar grounds?

A recent act of the FCC was to threaten nonrenewal of license of radio station KTRG in Honolulu, a major radio station in Hawaii. KTRG had been broadcasting libertarian programs for several hours a day for approximately two years. Finally, in late 1970, the FCC decided to open lengthy hearings moving toward nonrenewal of license, the threatened cost of which forced the owners to shut down the station permanently.

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

John James — Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:06:24 GMT

aervew:
their revenue is entirely dependent on consumer enjoying it.

Right...that's why GM is still in business. The consumer just enjoys their product. It's that simple really. The whole world is that simple.

Re: Time Magazine propaganda?

aervew — Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:24 GMT

All this conspiracist argumentation is nonsense. The media isnt controlled by the state or special interests. The media are market entities - their revenue is entirely dependent on consumer enjoying it. It is only catering to the interests of the consumer that causes the media content to be what it is, nothing else. And yes, that includes low attention on Ron Paul. Face it, he just isnt as fotogenic and charming as Romney or Cain, so it makes sense for media to focus on them, so that the audience would enjoy personable performances.