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Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

Htut — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:49:24 GMT

liberty student:

Htut:
HtutAlexander

Oh, I see. You're new.

yeah.

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

liberty student — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:39:00 GMT

Htut:
HtutAlexander

Oh, I see. You're new.

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

Htut — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:17:08 GMT

liberty student:

Htut:

From my fr33agents convo:

Yes, but when the State does that, it will do it the same way it does everything: by making bureaucratic rules.
And, enforced free of charge and without check by private law will encourage the accumulation of capital, including land, into well placed people.

Who are you on fr33 agents?

HtutAlexander

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

MB — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:55:30 GMT

Htut:

Property is theft/property is freedom isn't really a contradiction to me. It all depends on what property.

Interesting that you would say that.

Most anarch-communists et al seem to love to quote Proudhon's "Property is theft" as a justification for their anti-private property beliefs (so, does that mean I can't own clothes, books, food?).

Several years back I read an interesting article (sorry to say I can't recall who wrote it or where I read it). Apparemtly they all forget (or never learned) that he actually said "property is theft", "property is liberty" and "property is impossible". The article I read explained that and tried to explain in a libertarian way what Proudhon was meaning by the 3 terms.

I also noted your use of the term "voluntaryst". That is another 'movement', if you will, within libertarianism. There is still a website for it, as there used to be a print magazine. Its here: http://www.voluntaryist.com/ Carl Watner was the big wheel in this movement, who published the original magazine (of which there is a book that reprints a lot of it). Thought I'd mention it in case any were not aware of it.

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

Saan — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:49:17 GMT

Welcome Htut.

Facial recognition software is top notch now. If you have a driver's license or passport, all someone needs is an internet connection and a picture.

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

filc — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:42:06 GMT

Justin Spahr-Summers:
Interesting, because I was actually planning a move soon,

Come to Seattle. :) If your in IT there's like 2% unemployment. In other words, plenty of work to do.

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

liberty student — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:21:16 GMT

Htut:

From my fr33agents convo:

Yes, but when the State does that, it will do it the same way it does everything: by making bureaucratic rules.
And, enforced free of charge and without check by private law will encourage the accumulation of capital, including land, into well placed people.

Who are you on fr33 agents?

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

Telpeurion — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:45:17 GMT

Htut:

Spideynw:

krazy kaju:

First off, welcome!

Secondly, are you sure you want to be posting your pictures here? Just one of those basic security things.

To be honest, I don't get why people are so afraid to show a picture of themselves. I can understand not revealing your address and phone number, but I don't think it is a big deal to post your picture. I can't change my avatar, otherwise I would post my photo.

To quote Penn & Teller, "Stranger danger is bull**t!"

I saw that P&T episode as well, and agree.

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

Justin Spahr-Summers — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:03:07 GMT

filc:
http://www.meetup.com/Seattle-Anarcho-Capitalism/

If your ever in the Seattle area, look us up.

Interesting, because I was actually planning a move soon, and it basically came down to Seattle vs. New Hampshire (for different reasons).

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

Justin Spahr-Summers — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:02:04 GMT

krazy kaju:
I used to post on a variety of websites before I became anything close to being libertarian, and on most of those websites, forum members would warn against posting any personal information, since they feared orgs like Redwatch. That might be too conspiratorial of a worldview for some, but I accept it. I don't see a reason to out yourself in the first place. Do I really want to make it easily available for the government and future employers to know what my political views are?

I have no interest in being a martyr, but neither do I desire to obscure who I am.

Anyway, welcome to the forums. Those were some very strong introductory posts.

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

filc — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:03:44 GMT

Htut:

Seaside, Oregon. I don't know the actual name of the specific beach, if it has one.

http://www.meetup.com/Seattle-Anarcho-Capitalism/

If your ever in the Seattle area, look us up.

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

Htut — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:43:59 GMT

Spideynw:

krazy kaju:

First off, welcome!

Secondly, are you sure you want to be posting your pictures here? Just one of those basic security things.

To be honest, I don't get why people are so afraid to show a picture of themselves. I can understand not revealing your address and phone number, but I don't think it is a big deal to post your picture. I can't change my avatar, otherwise I would post my photo.

To quote Penn & Teller, "Stranger danger is bull**t!"

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

krazy kaju — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:02:28 GMT

I used to post on a variety of websites before I became anything close to being libertarian, and on most of those websites, forum members would warn against posting any personal information, since they feared orgs like Redwatch. That might be too conspiratorial of a worldview for some, but I accept it. I don't see a reason to out yourself in the first place. Do I really want to make it easily available for the government and future employers to know what my political views are?

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

Spideynw — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:48:38 GMT

krazy kaju:

First off, welcome!

Secondly, are you sure you want to be posting your pictures here? Just one of those basic security things.

To be honest, I don't get why people are so afraid to show a picture of themselves. I can understand not revealing your address and phone number, but I don't think it is a big deal to post your picture. I can't change my avatar, otherwise I would post my photo.

Re: Hey I'm here, free and clear

wilderness — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:09:13 GMT

Welcome. I read through the thread and posts. I like your perspective. Very insightful.