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Re: Meaning of the von Mises crest?

Arvin — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:46:10 GMT

I now see that you were talking about the bust. I've been attacking a strawman, without even knowing it. >.<

I'm sorry, Daniel.

Re: Meaning of the von Mises crest?

jtucker — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:16:06 GMT

The decalogue represents the Jewish heritage of the family. Then of course there is the Rose of Sharon in there. This was the crest given to the family.

Re: Meaning of the von Mises crest?

Arvin — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:21:30 GMT

I just found the bag of lapel pins I ordered from the LvMI, with every lapel pin, there is a note, and the note reads:

"Mises Family Crest
The Ludwig von Mises
Institute's coat of arms
is that of Mises's family,
awarded in 1881 when
Ludwig von Mises's great-
grandfather, Mayer Rachmiel
Mises, was enobled by
Emperor Franz Josef of
Austria-Hungary.

In the upper right-hand
quadrant is the staff of
Mercury, god of commerce
and communication (the
Mises family was successful
in both; they were bankers
and merchants).
In the lower left-hand
quadrant is a representation
of the Bible, open to the
Ten Commandments.

That is the only info I have.

Re: Meaning of the von Mises crest?

Arvin — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:53:48 GMT

Daniel:

Arvin:

Daniel:

For one, the Mises bust was produced by the free market, unlike the state's monuments.

"Coat of arms of Ludwig von Mises' great-grandfather, Mayer Rachmiel Mises, awarded upon his 1881 ennoblement by Franz Joseph I of Austria"

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises#Early_life

Free market huh?

I do not understand your point. How does what you wrote refute what I wrote?

"Franz Joseph I (-German, I. Ferenc József in Hungarian, in English Francis Joseph I Charles, see the name in other languages) (18 August 1830 – 21 November 1916) , reigned as Emperor of Austria and King of Bohemia from 1848 until 1916 and as King of Hungary from 1867 until 1916 ^[1]."

If it was given to the von Mises family by Franz Joseph I, then one can not claim it was produced by the free market. It would be like saying that the "Presidential medal of freedom" is a free market phenomenon.

Re: Meaning of the von Mises crest?

DanielMuff — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:56:47 GMT

Whoops! Totally misread the OP.

Re: Meaning of the von Mises crest?

Saan — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:32:30 GMT

It doesn't. I'm sure knows what a coat of arms is, but he asked what mises's meant. I am curious too. What does the symbolism mean. Anybody?

Re: Meaning of the von Mises crest?

DanielMuff — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:23:16 GMT

Arvin:

Daniel:

For one, the Mises bust was produced by the free market, unlike the state's monuments.

"Coat of arms of Ludwig von Mises' great-grandfather, Mayer Rachmiel Mises, awarded upon his 1881 ennoblement by Franz Joseph I of Austria"

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises#Early_life

Free market huh?

I do not understand your point. How does what you wrote refute what I wrote?

Re: Meaning of the von Mises crest?

Arvin — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:08:43 GMT

Daniel:

For one, the Mises bust was produced by the free market, unlike the state's monuments.

"Coat of arms of Ludwig von Mises' great-grandfather, Mayer Rachmiel Mises, awarded upon his 1881 ennoblement by Franz Joseph I of Austria"

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises#Early_life

Free market huh?

Re: Meaning of the von Mises crest?

Arvin — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:06:43 GMT

The staff of mercury(?) and the bible, open to the ten commandments.

Re: Meaning of the von Mises crest?

DanielMuff — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:32:09 GMT

For one, the Mises bust was produced by the free market, unlike the state's monuments.

Meaning of the von Mises crest?

bd29 — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:46:39 GMT

I was just curious.

Does anybody know how the crest for LvMI came about? What is the significance of the symbols, colors, positioning, etc?