https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/27.aspxEverything else.enCommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/263739.aspxTue, 27 Oct 2009 07:33:18 GMT944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:263739Nielsio0https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/263739.aspxhttps://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&PostID=263739<p>Oh, here is a review of it.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>http://www.roadtopeace.org/whatcanwedo.php?itemid=101</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Which includes the quote.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/263737.aspxTue, 27 Oct 2009 07:30:57 GMT944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:263737Nielsio0https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/263737.aspxhttps://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&PostID=263737<p>I&#39;m just quoting that PDF. If Wikipedia says that&#39;s a common mistake, then they obviously know more about it.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I wonder what alternative Deutsch offers in his &quot;Nationalism and its alternatives&quot;.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/263720.aspxTue, 27 Oct 2009 06:41:03 GMT944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:263720Sukrit0https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/263720.aspxhttps://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&PostID=263720<p>Are you sure it&#39;s Renan? According to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Renan">Wikipedia</a>: &quot;Karl Deutsch (in <em>Nationalism and its alternatives</em>) suggested that a nation is &#39;a group of people united by a mistaken view about the past and a hatred of their neighbours.&#39; This phrase is frequently, but mistakenly, attributed to Renan himself.&quot; </p> <p>&nbsp;</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/263603.aspxMon, 26 Oct 2009 20:31:58 GMT944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:263603Juan0https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/263603.aspxhttps://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&PostID=263603&quot;A country can be defined as a group of people with a shared misunderstanding of their history and a common hatred of their neighbours.&quot; <br /><br /> Haha. Amazing quote.<div style="clear:both;"></div>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/263599.aspxMon, 26 Oct 2009 20:19:24 GMT944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:263599Nielsio0https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/263599.aspxhttps://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&PostID=263599<p><i>As Ernest Renan noted, history is not so much about collective memory, but first of all about forgetting. He defined the nation as: &ldquo;&hellip; a group of people united by a common hatred of their neighbours and a shared misunderstanding of their past.&rdquo;</i></p> <p>As found here:</p> <p>http://www.socialistsanddemocrats.eu/gpes/media3/documents/2856_EN_politics_past_en_090603.pdf</p> <p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Renan</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/263533.aspxMon, 26 Oct 2009 09:03:14 GMT944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:263533Sukrit0https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/263533.aspxhttps://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&PostID=263533<p> <h3 class="GenericStory_Message">&nbsp;Does anyone know the source of this quote? Would be useful for my history essay.</h3> <h3 class="GenericStory_Message"> &quot;A country can be defined as a group of people with a shared misunderstanding of their history and a common hatred of their neighbours&quot;.</h3> </p><div style="clear:both;"></div>