General

Re: Game: Means of production

Saan2 — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:59:16 GMT

Bogart:

How about the logic that people earn their marginal productivity. If women were more marginally productive than men then an employer would find that they could hire all women and produce the same with less cost. But the reality is that they are not. People work for other reasons than cash salary. Some work for lots of time off, others to help people, others to allow them to work around childrens or old folks schedules. The reality is that women do not have the marginal productivity for a variety of reasons the biggest being the A-symetric effects of marriage and the A-symetric burden of raising children.

Unfortunately, in most situations these days, emotion rules reason while power trumps logic.

Re: Game: Means of production

Giant_Joe — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:53:45 GMT

AJ:

I believe it was specifically "never-married women with no children," but I could be misremembering. Walter Block's video "Defending against Charges of Racism and Sexism" somewhere on mises.org covers this and all sorts of other un-PC things.

You are correct in that it is that demographic. The difference in wages between men and women who have never married and have never had children is negligible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAzkQWgIEbU

Re: Game: Means of production

AJ — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:42:38 GMT

Wanderer:

Bogart:

Furthermore, studies of women without children show that these women make more on average than their male counterparts.

Interesting. Do you have a link? I would like to see that.

I believe it was specifically "never-married women with no children," but I could be misremembering. Walter Block's video "Defending against Charges of Racism and Sexism" somewhere on mises.org covers this and all sorts of other un-PC things.

Re: Game: Means of production

wilderness — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:40:22 GMT

Wanderer:

Also, how does one post a pic? I feel like such a n00b...

When you are making a post. At the top under "Description:" are icons. The eleventh icon from the left is called "Insert Media". Click there and follow headings that come up in the pop-up window after you have clicked there to eventually have a picture (or video too) be inserted in post.

edit: what Hard Rain said.

Re: Game: Means of production

Hard Rain — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:38:35 GMT

Wanderer:

Also, how does one post a pic? I feel like such a n00b...

When you hit "Reply" and go into the text editor there's a little icon that looks like a film strip that says "Insert Media".

There ya go.

Re: Game: Means of production

Giant_Joe — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:24:11 GMT

Bogart:

How about the logic that people earn their marginal productivity. If women were more marginally productive than men then an employer would find that they could hire all women and produce the same with less cost. But the reality is that they are not. People work for other reasons than cash salary. Some work for lots of time off, others to help people, others to allow them to work around childrens or old folks schedules. The reality is that women do not have the marginal productivity for a variety of reasons the biggest being the A-symetric effects of marriage and the A-symetric burden of raising children.

"That's capitalist pig bourgeois thinking!"

QED

Re: Game: Means of production

Wanderer — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:48:00 GMT

Bogart:

Furthermore, studies of women without children show that these women make more on average than their male counterparts.

Interesting. Do you have a link? I would like to see that.

Also, how does one post a pic? I feel like such a n00b...

Re: Game: Means of production

Bogart — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:34:19 GMT

Furthermore, studies of women without children show that these women make more on average than their male counterparts.

Re: Game: Means of production

Bogart — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:33:44 GMT

How about the logic that people earn their marginal productivity. If women were more marginally productive than men then an employer would find that they could hire all women and produce the same with less cost. But the reality is that they are not. People work for other reasons than cash salary. Some work for lots of time off, others to help people, others to allow them to work around childrens or old folks schedules. The reality is that women do not have the marginal productivity for a variety of reasons the biggest being the A-symetric effects of marriage and the A-symetric burden of raising children.

Re: Game: Means of production

Libertarian_for_Life — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:11:15 GMT

The Constitution

Used by the thiefs in Washington to impose legitimacy over their serfs.

Has no actual authority to limit it's government although most of the serfs don't know this, that is it's true power.

EDIT: Well, this is kind of like the opposite of what you wanted, it's like the means to counter-production, lol.

Game: Means of production

Giant_Joe — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:01:58 GMT

Just yesterday, I outlined to a friend the argument Walter Block had put forward with respect to the gap in wages between men and women. Someone had overheard this, and later that evening I was informed that I was seen as making "sexist" and "bigoted" comments.

i'm still fuming.

So to taunt marxist egalitarians and statists, I've developed an easy to play game called "Means of production"

Rules:

1.Post a picture of some kind of tangible capital that allows a person to produce or provide a service.

2. Give the name of the item in the picture.

3. Provide a definition (and optionally, additional info) for the item.

Allow me to get us started.

Hammer

Use it to bang things. Hammer in nails. Rip out nails. Break things that you need to break. All sorts of tradespeople use them to make a living. Use or ownership of is not exclusive to proletariat or to bourgeoisie.

Price: Less than $10